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If you are capable, please help us to create good quality subtitles: https://c3subtitles.de/talk/922 Thanks! 1 00:00:14,810 --> 00:00:17,959 Well, our next speaker is that 2 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,359 she's a new media and sound artist 3 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,639 from Canada, Dasha is known 4 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,009 for her examinations of communication 5 00:00:25,010 --> 00:00:27,499 technology in the domestic sphere. 6 00:00:27,500 --> 00:00:29,689 She uses DIY esthetics and 7 00:00:29,690 --> 00:00:32,269 practices as artistic method 8 00:00:32,270 --> 00:00:34,549 to create sound installation, 9 00:00:34,550 --> 00:00:37,099 performances, drawings of beautiful 10 00:00:37,100 --> 00:00:38,239 high tech trash. 11 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,849 As she writes on her Instagram, 12 00:00:40,850 --> 00:00:42,769 Dashner is a fellow at the Berlin Center 13 00:00:42,770 --> 00:00:44,329 for Advanced Studies and Arts and 14 00:00:44,330 --> 00:00:46,459 Sciences and guest professor of New 15 00:00:46,460 --> 00:00:48,819 Media and Sound at at a Karlsruhe 16 00:00:48,820 --> 00:00:51,319 University of Art and Design. 17 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,029 Her art was presented at many 18 00:00:53,030 --> 00:00:55,939 international conferences and festivals 19 00:00:55,940 --> 00:00:57,259 and exhibitions. 20 00:00:57,260 --> 00:00:59,769 So we are very happy to welcome 21 00:00:59,770 --> 00:01:02,179 Dasha here today to MIT, 22 00:01:02,180 --> 00:01:03,949 talking about the links between 23 00:01:03,950 --> 00:01:06,109 socialism, lawnmowers 24 00:01:06,110 --> 00:01:08,059 and media art. 25 00:01:08,060 --> 00:01:10,400 Enjoy the status, your daughter. 26 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:15,899 Hello and 27 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,319 nice to see people in the crowd and hello 28 00:01:19,320 --> 00:01:21,809 to people who also might be watching 29 00:01:21,810 --> 00:01:23,939 online and later through YouTube 30 00:01:23,940 --> 00:01:25,859 or however so 31 00:01:27,410 --> 00:01:29,820 I I'm an artist and. 32 00:01:31,850 --> 00:01:34,549 I like to do a lot of electronics, 33 00:01:34,550 --> 00:01:36,859 some of the things I like to look at 34 00:01:36,860 --> 00:01:39,289 are obsolete technology 35 00:01:39,290 --> 00:01:41,569 and this concept of planned 36 00:01:41,570 --> 00:01:43,979 obsolescence in 37 00:01:43,980 --> 00:01:45,769 esthetics of failure. 38 00:01:45,770 --> 00:01:48,019 Everything that's written 39 00:01:48,020 --> 00:01:49,520 in my slides here, 40 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,409 I wanted to start out by 41 00:01:54,410 --> 00:01:57,319 mentioning one of my 42 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,689 main people 43 00:01:59,690 --> 00:02:03,049 of interest as an inspiration point. 44 00:02:03,050 --> 00:02:05,269 Doctor was a la Franklin. 45 00:02:05,270 --> 00:02:07,399 She's actually not so well 46 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,619 known here in Germany, 47 00:02:09,620 --> 00:02:11,899 but she's what we call in Canada, 48 00:02:11,900 --> 00:02:13,109 a national treasure. 49 00:02:13,110 --> 00:02:15,199 We have a school named after her 50 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,599 and she's written a lot about 51 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:18,650 she comes from 52 00:02:19,970 --> 00:02:21,439 a scientific background. 53 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,229 She's a physicist, but she's also 54 00:02:24,230 --> 00:02:27,019 a strong advocate, feminist pacifist. 55 00:02:27,020 --> 00:02:29,089 And she writes about technology 56 00:02:29,090 --> 00:02:30,769 in these really interesting metaphorical 57 00:02:30,770 --> 00:02:33,079 ways where she refers to 58 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,569 technology being a home and 59 00:02:35,570 --> 00:02:37,969 how people live in and throughout 60 00:02:37,970 --> 00:02:40,099 it and essentially thinking 61 00:02:40,100 --> 00:02:42,319 of technology as a practice 62 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,599 and not just objects and things, but 63 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,359 systems where people are involved. 64 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,999 And myself, I'm interested 65 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,059 in deconstructing 66 00:02:53,060 --> 00:02:55,429 electronics from the household. 67 00:02:55,430 --> 00:02:58,309 And the reason why 68 00:02:58,310 --> 00:03:00,409 is because it's pretty 69 00:03:00,410 --> 00:03:02,119 accessible. 70 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:03,379 I went to art school. 71 00:03:03,380 --> 00:03:05,689 I don't have any training in 72 00:03:05,690 --> 00:03:07,439 engineering or anything like this. 73 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,889 So the best thing I can possibly do 74 00:03:09,890 --> 00:03:12,319 when I want to experiment with technology 75 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,539 is go to the garbage, go 76 00:03:14,540 --> 00:03:16,939 to the dumpster and pull out 77 00:03:16,940 --> 00:03:19,669 all the gear that is 78 00:03:19,670 --> 00:03:22,039 no longer useful to anybody 79 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,139 else. And I can take it into my 80 00:03:24,140 --> 00:03:26,299 studio and I can take it apart and 81 00:03:26,300 --> 00:03:28,369 see what it provides me with 82 00:03:28,370 --> 00:03:30,619 as far as artistic inspiration. 83 00:03:30,620 --> 00:03:32,179 So I never really start out with a 84 00:03:32,180 --> 00:03:34,249 concept, an artistic concept. 85 00:03:34,250 --> 00:03:36,379 I more look at 86 00:03:36,380 --> 00:03:38,809 a machine and I say, OK, machine, 87 00:03:38,810 --> 00:03:40,879 what can you tell me? 88 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,519 That's interesting to work with? 89 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,649 And so I think 90 00:03:45,650 --> 00:03:48,979 a lot of us in the audience in here 91 00:03:48,980 --> 00:03:50,689 at the Congress are familiar with this 92 00:03:50,690 --> 00:03:53,599 concept of planned obsolescence. 93 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,489 I do like to introduce it, however, 94 00:03:55,490 --> 00:03:57,979 because in sometimes 95 00:03:57,980 --> 00:04:00,379 when I talk about it with my students, 96 00:04:00,380 --> 00:04:02,329 I get asked if I believe in the 97 00:04:02,330 --> 00:04:03,889 conspiracy theory of planned 98 00:04:03,890 --> 00:04:05,209 obsolescence. 99 00:04:05,210 --> 00:04:07,519 And I would like 100 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,499 to point out, as probably many of you 101 00:04:09,500 --> 00:04:11,869 know, that this was no conspiracy 102 00:04:11,870 --> 00:04:14,239 theory. It's a business model that 103 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,939 started when in the Great Depression 104 00:04:16,940 --> 00:04:19,129 in USA. This was one way to get out 105 00:04:19,130 --> 00:04:21,319 of a big economic jam was 106 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,899 to produce products 107 00:04:23,900 --> 00:04:26,119 that had a limited lifespan so 108 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,489 that people would 109 00:04:28,490 --> 00:04:30,889 buy things again and again 110 00:04:30,890 --> 00:04:31,849 and again. 111 00:04:31,850 --> 00:04:33,949 And we really haven't stopped doing that, 112 00:04:33,950 --> 00:04:37,009 which is causing us a lot of problems 113 00:04:37,010 --> 00:04:39,169 because we keep having 114 00:04:39,170 --> 00:04:40,170 this approach. 115 00:04:41,750 --> 00:04:42,979 So what are you going to do now is I'll 116 00:04:42,980 --> 00:04:45,469 show you a few sound installations 117 00:04:45,470 --> 00:04:47,269 and then I'm going to show you some DIY 118 00:04:47,270 --> 00:04:49,489 videos and that I worked on. 119 00:04:49,490 --> 00:04:51,589 And then a new project 120 00:04:51,590 --> 00:04:53,300 which has to do with dissecting 121 00:04:55,940 --> 00:04:56,839 a lawnmower. 122 00:04:56,840 --> 00:04:59,119 And I'm very happy to be sort 123 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,189 of showing it to you guys here because it 124 00:05:01,190 --> 00:05:03,439 actually has its origins in this 125 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,599 part of the world. 126 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,819 So maybe even some of the locals would 127 00:05:07,820 --> 00:05:10,130 have used this lawnmower back in the day. 128 00:05:12,550 --> 00:05:13,550 So. 129 00:05:18,390 --> 00:05:19,390 So 130 00:05:20,580 --> 00:05:21,839 how long ago was this? 131 00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:23,879 I don't know, maybe close to, 132 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,229 however many years ago, maybe 2012, 133 00:05:28,230 --> 00:05:30,779 they started to phase out 134 00:05:30,780 --> 00:05:34,019 analog television signals in Canada. 135 00:05:34,020 --> 00:05:36,449 And instead of letting people know that 136 00:05:36,450 --> 00:05:37,770 they can get a converter 137 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:40,600 and 138 00:05:41,850 --> 00:05:43,889 plug their TV to get digital signals, a 139 00:05:43,890 --> 00:05:45,149 lot of people are just like, well, I 140 00:05:45,150 --> 00:05:46,769 guess it's just time to throw out the old 141 00:05:46,770 --> 00:05:47,770 TVs. 142 00:05:48,840 --> 00:05:51,389 So I spent a lot of time 143 00:05:51,390 --> 00:05:52,979 going around my neighborhood and feeling 144 00:05:52,980 --> 00:05:55,289 kind of bad for these old televisions 145 00:05:55,290 --> 00:05:57,599 and might like to point out I come from 146 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,789 a family where my father was an antique 147 00:05:59,790 --> 00:06:00,689 dealer. 148 00:06:00,690 --> 00:06:02,969 So anything that's old and sort 149 00:06:02,970 --> 00:06:05,279 of left on the side 150 00:06:05,280 --> 00:06:06,839 has always been something interesting to 151 00:06:06,840 --> 00:06:08,789 me, because what I learned from my family 152 00:06:08,790 --> 00:06:10,949 is that looking at 153 00:06:10,950 --> 00:06:13,319 an object, looking at how it was used, 154 00:06:14,850 --> 00:06:17,279 looking at how an object was used and 155 00:06:19,230 --> 00:06:22,019 can kind of give you insight into 156 00:06:22,020 --> 00:06:24,119 society or what was going on at 157 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:25,649 that time in history. 158 00:06:25,650 --> 00:06:26,999 Kind of like if you were to look at a 159 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,189 painting for art historical purposes, 160 00:06:29,190 --> 00:06:32,129 it's like a window onto a certain time. 161 00:06:32,130 --> 00:06:34,259 So what I noticed 162 00:06:37,110 --> 00:06:39,389 responding to the electrostatic 163 00:06:39,390 --> 00:06:40,799 discharge from the TV. 164 00:06:45,350 --> 00:06:47,090 I'll just go back to that one, sorry, 165 00:06:49,970 --> 00:06:51,169 OK, maybe not. 166 00:06:51,170 --> 00:06:53,479 What I noticed is that the old CRT 167 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,699 television televisions produce a lot 168 00:06:55,700 --> 00:06:58,129 of electrostatic emissions. 169 00:06:58,130 --> 00:07:00,529 So when you put 170 00:07:00,530 --> 00:07:03,259 your head in front of it, your hair 171 00:07:03,260 --> 00:07:05,719 sort of gets magically lifted up. 172 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,609 And when I was doing those experiments in 173 00:07:07,610 --> 00:07:09,709 my studio with my hat, I really 174 00:07:09,710 --> 00:07:12,019 thought that I came upon something 175 00:07:12,020 --> 00:07:12,919 really unique. 176 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,049 You know, I can make a 177 00:07:15,050 --> 00:07:17,119 static electricity, make things 178 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:18,120 move. 179 00:07:18,620 --> 00:07:20,719 And then I did a bit of research. 180 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,339 And what I found out is 181 00:07:24,260 --> 00:07:26,539 those were experiments being done like 182 00:07:26,540 --> 00:07:28,489 over like hundreds of years ago. 183 00:07:28,490 --> 00:07:30,469 I just happened to rediscover them. 184 00:07:30,470 --> 00:07:33,289 So what you see here is the electrostatic 185 00:07:33,290 --> 00:07:34,459 bell choir. 186 00:07:34,460 --> 00:07:37,219 And in front of the television, 187 00:07:37,220 --> 00:07:39,309 you have these Ballston, 188 00:07:39,310 --> 00:07:41,299 these electrostatic bell stands, which 189 00:07:41,300 --> 00:07:43,339 are their own little circuit in the 190 00:07:43,340 --> 00:07:45,289 center. We have like the ground Rodge. 191 00:07:45,290 --> 00:07:47,419 And on either side we have those bells 192 00:07:47,420 --> 00:07:49,639 and hanging suspended between 193 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:53,179 each of them is a really light material, 194 00:07:53,180 --> 00:07:54,469 which is called the pith ball. 195 00:07:54,470 --> 00:07:56,029 It's actually the light material that's 196 00:07:56,030 --> 00:07:58,069 inside of a tree branch. 197 00:07:58,070 --> 00:08:00,169 And so when the TV turns 198 00:08:00,170 --> 00:08:02,869 on or off, it gets this boost 199 00:08:02,870 --> 00:08:04,410 of electro 200 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,549 static electricity, which makes it waver 201 00:08:07,550 --> 00:08:08,550 back and forth. 202 00:08:09,890 --> 00:08:12,259 This installation works exceptionally 203 00:08:12,260 --> 00:08:15,119 well in dry environments. 204 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:16,789 So on my tech writer, I actually have a 205 00:08:16,790 --> 00:08:18,889 big dehumidifier because I have shown it 206 00:08:18,890 --> 00:08:20,329 before and old castles and it's 207 00:08:20,330 --> 00:08:22,489 completely dead at that point because 208 00:08:22,490 --> 00:08:23,629 the moisture kills it. 209 00:08:23,630 --> 00:08:26,329 So I have to run around with hairdryers 210 00:08:26,330 --> 00:08:29,059 and try to dry up the screens. 211 00:08:29,060 --> 00:08:31,529 So this is a one of the installation. 212 00:08:31,530 --> 00:08:33,048 So I sort of make something that looks a 213 00:08:33,049 --> 00:08:34,070 bit like an alter. 214 00:08:37,250 --> 00:08:39,499 It's using Solid-State relay's to control 215 00:08:39,500 --> 00:08:41,749 the sequences of TV's going on and off. 216 00:08:41,750 --> 00:08:43,999 I have a pretty basic program 217 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,889 running on an Arduino. 218 00:08:47,450 --> 00:08:49,609 This project keeps getting more and more 219 00:08:49,610 --> 00:08:52,009 challenging to make as it goes along 220 00:08:52,010 --> 00:08:54,169 because the TVs are not as easy to 221 00:08:54,170 --> 00:08:56,269 find anymore and I can't get the 222 00:08:56,270 --> 00:08:58,579 same effect with a flat screen. 223 00:08:58,580 --> 00:09:00,799 So right 224 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:02,659 now I have a lot of old televisions in 225 00:09:02,660 --> 00:09:04,789 storage and I 226 00:09:04,790 --> 00:09:06,379 just hang on to them. 227 00:09:06,380 --> 00:09:08,419 Who knows, maybe one day the artwork will 228 00:09:08,420 --> 00:09:10,729 be bought and I won't have to pay 229 00:09:10,730 --> 00:09:13,129 money monthly to store them. 230 00:09:13,130 --> 00:09:14,929 The bells themselves are actually from 231 00:09:14,930 --> 00:09:17,119 old rotary telephones and 232 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:18,169 grandfather clocks. 233 00:09:19,980 --> 00:09:20,980 So, yeah. 234 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,769 Next is a work called the Feedback 235 00:09:26,770 --> 00:09:29,139 Babies, and 236 00:09:29,140 --> 00:09:31,179 what this is, is these are baby monitors 237 00:09:31,180 --> 00:09:33,549 or baby phones that were 238 00:09:33,550 --> 00:09:35,739 really abundant, let's 239 00:09:35,740 --> 00:09:37,719 say, in the second hand store. 240 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,129 This was made in 80s. 241 00:09:39,130 --> 00:09:41,709 These were started to be made around 83. 242 00:09:41,710 --> 00:09:44,289 So this was a big part of my childhood. 243 00:09:44,290 --> 00:09:46,479 I don't know if I used one 244 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,579 or not, but I noticed that they would 245 00:09:48,580 --> 00:09:50,439 always show up at the thrift store. 246 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,089 So I slowly started to collect them 247 00:09:52,090 --> 00:09:54,039 because I thought, you know, if I get it 248 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,109 up an abundance of these things, it 249 00:09:56,110 --> 00:09:58,269 could probably be interesting enough 250 00:09:58,270 --> 00:10:00,429 to make an installation with 251 00:10:00,430 --> 00:10:02,349 them. And I really like the quality of 252 00:10:02,350 --> 00:10:04,539 the feedback because in one way 253 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:08,379 it sounds like crying. 254 00:10:08,380 --> 00:10:09,879 Can you guys hear that enough or should I 255 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:10,880 turn it up? 256 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:13,400 No, it's good. 257 00:10:15,010 --> 00:10:16,750 OK, I see some 258 00:10:17,950 --> 00:10:18,950 of that. 259 00:10:20,950 --> 00:10:21,950 And 260 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,809 so I noticed when they move the monitor 261 00:10:25,810 --> 00:10:27,700 in a certain pattern in front of the 262 00:10:29,260 --> 00:10:31,359 eye, when I move the receiver in front 263 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,519 of the transmitter and a certain 264 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,619 pattern, I get nice sounds. 265 00:10:35,620 --> 00:10:37,809 And that one up here 266 00:10:37,810 --> 00:10:39,189 is what's working really well. 267 00:10:39,190 --> 00:10:40,719 But to figure out how to actually make 268 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,999 that movement took me forever. 269 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,580 But eventually the work transformed. 270 00:10:47,410 --> 00:10:49,359 That kind of looks a little bit now and 271 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:50,619 I'm thinking I'm calling feedback. 272 00:10:50,620 --> 00:10:52,809 Maybe someone looks a little bit mean. 273 00:10:52,810 --> 00:10:54,370 It's like hanging it. 274 00:10:56,470 --> 00:10:58,599 So here's a close up. 275 00:10:58,600 --> 00:10:59,769 A couple of details. 276 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,139 Of what it turned into. 277 00:12:32,740 --> 00:12:35,099 So in both of those two pieces, sound 278 00:12:35,100 --> 00:12:36,849 is a pretty important element, but I 279 00:12:36,850 --> 00:12:39,309 never approach sound as like a musician. 280 00:12:39,310 --> 00:12:41,769 I'm actually really not interested 281 00:12:41,770 --> 00:12:42,819 in making music. 282 00:12:42,820 --> 00:12:45,009 I'm more interested in hearing 283 00:12:45,010 --> 00:12:47,169 what the machines are giving me and 284 00:12:47,170 --> 00:12:49,299 then sort of placing that in a space and 285 00:12:49,300 --> 00:12:51,820 then seeing what it does. 286 00:12:53,110 --> 00:12:55,389 So, yeah, they're not really so 287 00:12:55,390 --> 00:12:57,370 composed or anything like this. 288 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,109 OK, so I wanted 289 00:13:02,110 --> 00:13:04,149 to get into some of my 290 00:13:05,410 --> 00:13:07,449 DIY videos, now I'm realizing this is 291 00:13:07,450 --> 00:13:10,009 almost 10 years or so for this next 292 00:13:10,010 --> 00:13:12,489 to be doing is we're going to be making 293 00:13:12,490 --> 00:13:14,709 an audio representation of 294 00:13:14,710 --> 00:13:15,849 AC power. 295 00:13:15,850 --> 00:13:18,129 So what you'll see here is 296 00:13:18,130 --> 00:13:21,489 we have a power cord that's plugged into 297 00:13:21,490 --> 00:13:23,739 power by that's going to the wall and 298 00:13:23,740 --> 00:13:25,839 then we have it going 299 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:27,199 to a transformer. 300 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:28,779 And what the transformer is doing is 301 00:13:28,780 --> 00:13:31,509 dropping it from 120 volts AC 302 00:13:31,510 --> 00:13:33,759 down to 15 volts, which is a little 303 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:35,799 bit more easy for us to manage for our 304 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,929 purposes. And it's it's directly 305 00:13:37,930 --> 00:13:39,249 driving the speaker. 306 00:13:39,250 --> 00:13:40,749 So what you're going to be hearing is 307 00:13:40,750 --> 00:13:43,119 this 60 hertz 66 308 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,399 cycle, which generally 309 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,449 is something that we try to avoid. 310 00:13:47,450 --> 00:13:49,689 We try to cut out, you know, a lot of 311 00:13:49,690 --> 00:13:52,509 gear for music, you know, 312 00:13:52,510 --> 00:13:54,379 is is made in a certain way. 313 00:13:54,380 --> 00:13:55,449 So it gets rid of this hum. 314 00:13:55,450 --> 00:13:57,669 But we actually wanted to hear 315 00:13:57,670 --> 00:13:59,189 precisely that, nothing else. 316 00:13:59,190 --> 00:14:00,880 So when I turn on this thing, 317 00:14:02,140 --> 00:14:03,429 pouvoir, you're going to hear it. 318 00:14:03,430 --> 00:14:04,430 So here it is. 319 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,189 So these are the kinds of things you get 320 00:14:08,190 --> 00:14:10,079 up to in Canada when it's really cold 321 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:11,080 out. 322 00:14:12,060 --> 00:14:13,060 So I. 323 00:14:13,890 --> 00:14:15,929 This is at a time I was really first 324 00:14:15,930 --> 00:14:18,029 getting into working with 325 00:14:18,030 --> 00:14:19,889 this idea of open source software and 326 00:14:19,890 --> 00:14:21,599 everything, and there is this idea like 327 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,339 you always have to contribute back to the 328 00:14:23,340 --> 00:14:24,329 community. 329 00:14:24,330 --> 00:14:26,579 I'm like, I'm definitely not doing any 330 00:14:26,580 --> 00:14:29,549 fucking documentation for pure data, 331 00:14:29,550 --> 00:14:31,769 even though I did, it was boring. 332 00:14:31,770 --> 00:14:33,059 So I was like, I know I'll make these 333 00:14:33,060 --> 00:14:35,069 videos and this will be my contribution. 334 00:14:35,070 --> 00:14:37,619 So these videos that I made do go on are 335 00:14:37,620 --> 00:14:38,620 on YouTube. 336 00:14:40,740 --> 00:14:43,019 Yeah, but I mean, now 337 00:14:43,020 --> 00:14:45,149 this is quite a normal thing, 338 00:14:45,150 --> 00:14:47,279 but 10 or close to 10 339 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,169 years ago, I, I don't know what I was 340 00:14:49,170 --> 00:14:50,489 doing. I was just putting them on there. 341 00:14:50,490 --> 00:14:51,779 And it's nice to know that they still get 342 00:14:51,780 --> 00:14:52,780 seen. 343 00:14:53,820 --> 00:14:55,019 This next video 344 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:57,160 is. 345 00:14:59,540 --> 00:15:01,460 From a collaboration I do with 346 00:15:02,660 --> 00:15:04,939 Create Digital Media, where 347 00:15:04,940 --> 00:15:07,069 we bring a bunch of people together 348 00:15:07,070 --> 00:15:10,459 and over the course of about five days, 349 00:15:10,460 --> 00:15:12,829 people do all sorts of hacking related 350 00:15:12,830 --> 00:15:13,909 to music. 351 00:15:13,910 --> 00:15:15,439 There's a lot of knowledge transfer going 352 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,809 on and sometimes we find interesting 353 00:15:17,810 --> 00:15:19,070 hacks and we share them. 354 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,609 So here we are in the last few 355 00:15:29,610 --> 00:15:32,579 hours, late at night at the HACLA, stuck 356 00:15:32,580 --> 00:15:34,739 at the artifact festival and a few of 357 00:15:34,740 --> 00:15:36,779 us are here to show you a really fun fact 358 00:15:36,780 --> 00:15:38,939 that we found somebody 359 00:15:38,940 --> 00:15:41,249 purchased a second hand child, 360 00:15:41,250 --> 00:15:43,559 a fake microphone that gave some pretty 361 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,179 interesting Equifax. 362 00:15:45,180 --> 00:15:46,919 And then, of course, it was busted open 363 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:48,299 in the spirit of the heckler. 364 00:15:48,300 --> 00:15:49,649 And then we realized that there was this 365 00:15:49,650 --> 00:15:51,869 really interesting disco 366 00:15:51,870 --> 00:15:53,609 leidy's in there and we were playing 367 00:15:53,610 --> 00:15:54,869 around with it. And then we thought it 368 00:15:54,870 --> 00:15:57,109 was like, hey, man, why don't we just 369 00:15:57,110 --> 00:15:59,219 jacot into the mixer and see if 370 00:15:59,220 --> 00:16:01,919 we can hear the actual sounds of this 371 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:03,129 little disco. 372 00:16:03,130 --> 00:16:05,189 ALDY And what we 373 00:16:05,190 --> 00:16:07,139 realized was something quite fascinating. 374 00:16:07,140 --> 00:16:08,819 There's actually a little chip, little 375 00:16:08,820 --> 00:16:10,539 integrated circuit on the inside of the 376 00:16:10,540 --> 00:16:12,899 lid that gives us some extra 377 00:16:12,900 --> 00:16:14,129 special surprise. 378 00:16:14,130 --> 00:16:16,409 So I'm going to parachute 379 00:16:16,410 --> 00:16:18,479 into this Jack here 380 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,249 and then Marie, 381 00:16:24,890 --> 00:16:25,890 that. 382 00:16:40,340 --> 00:16:41,899 Has anyone done this before? 383 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:44,269 Yeah, it's pretty fun. 384 00:16:44,270 --> 00:16:46,969 It's like little over NO2 385 00:16:46,970 --> 00:16:49,610 on a chip inside of Amidi. 386 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,399 Yes, so that's a pretty exciting 387 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:17,838 find, it's not something that we see 388 00:17:17,839 --> 00:17:19,669 every day, but any time you see a little 389 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,059 crappy looking party 390 00:17:23,060 --> 00:17:25,189 disco led like this, you might want to 391 00:17:25,190 --> 00:17:27,019 patch it into some speakers because 392 00:17:27,020 --> 00:17:28,579 there's a pretty interesting sound 393 00:17:28,580 --> 00:17:29,580 waiting to be heard. 394 00:17:32,810 --> 00:17:35,059 So drawing schematics 395 00:17:35,060 --> 00:17:37,999 and using I studied for one 396 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,549 one year interior design 397 00:17:40,550 --> 00:17:42,409 before one of the teachers like you don't 398 00:17:42,410 --> 00:17:44,779 belong here. You should go to art school. 399 00:17:44,780 --> 00:17:46,999 But I learned I spent a whole year 400 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,919 learning how to do technical drawing and 401 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:50,389 drafting and market building. 402 00:17:50,390 --> 00:17:52,249 And this was very useful because I 403 00:17:52,250 --> 00:17:54,619 learned how to draw lines. 404 00:17:54,620 --> 00:17:56,509 So there's a lot of line drawings. 405 00:17:56,510 --> 00:17:58,999 It's not easy and different sizes 406 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,039 of lines mean different widths of line 407 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:02,090 mean different things. 408 00:18:03,140 --> 00:18:05,899 Yeah. So then Unter, 409 00:18:05,900 --> 00:18:07,279 let's move on to this one. 410 00:18:09,140 --> 00:18:11,359 What I would call probably 411 00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:13,759 my most technically ambitious 412 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,020 DIY videos. 413 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,679 What you're seeing here right now is the 414 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,899 temple wheel of the Zeidman 415 00:18:20,900 --> 00:18:22,969 five thousand, which 416 00:18:22,970 --> 00:18:23,970 is 417 00:18:25,490 --> 00:18:27,769 the world's oldest 418 00:18:27,770 --> 00:18:30,649 commercially available 419 00:18:30,650 --> 00:18:33,139 drum machine, which is what Wurlitzer 420 00:18:33,140 --> 00:18:36,239 said when it came out in 1959, 421 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,479 although there seem to have been other 422 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,129 things going on in different countries. 423 00:18:40,130 --> 00:18:42,709 But this one got a lot of hype. 424 00:18:42,710 --> 00:18:44,389 What's special about it, too, is that 425 00:18:44,390 --> 00:18:46,579 it's working 426 00:18:46,580 --> 00:18:48,469 on vacuum tubes and valves. 427 00:18:49,610 --> 00:18:51,739 So it's particularly scary 428 00:18:51,740 --> 00:18:53,599 in a certain level because it's a lot of 429 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,909 high voltage and people 430 00:18:55,910 --> 00:18:57,979 have this mystical idea about vacuum 431 00:18:57,980 --> 00:18:59,059 tubes a lot of the time. 432 00:19:00,470 --> 00:19:03,589 So I made a 10 part 433 00:19:03,590 --> 00:19:06,049 series online 434 00:19:06,050 --> 00:19:08,539 about how each section of the 435 00:19:08,540 --> 00:19:10,789 drum machine works, 436 00:19:10,790 --> 00:19:12,919 including things like the speaker, the 437 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,769 tempo wheel and all sorts of this 438 00:19:15,770 --> 00:19:16,369 saucing. 439 00:19:16,370 --> 00:19:18,799 The schematic wasn't the easiest 440 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,089 thing I've ever done. 441 00:19:20,090 --> 00:19:21,619 It was somewhat of a hunt. 442 00:19:22,970 --> 00:19:25,489 I did find a retired 443 00:19:25,490 --> 00:19:27,739 music critic 444 00:19:27,740 --> 00:19:29,869 who was happy to email one to me 445 00:19:29,870 --> 00:19:32,119 and give me some give me some pointers 446 00:19:32,120 --> 00:19:34,489 as well. So Sideman would usually 447 00:19:34,490 --> 00:19:37,399 be in a box like that, 448 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,649 and they 449 00:19:39,650 --> 00:19:41,899 marketed it in several ways. 450 00:19:41,900 --> 00:19:44,059 One of them, one of the ideas 451 00:19:44,060 --> 00:19:45,949 is that it was a teaching machine. 452 00:19:45,950 --> 00:19:48,259 So I 453 00:19:48,260 --> 00:19:50,929 should say it plays ballroom dance music 454 00:19:50,930 --> 00:19:52,909 at various different tempos. 455 00:19:52,910 --> 00:19:55,789 OK, if you speed up Foxtrot, 456 00:19:56,900 --> 00:19:58,309 it turns into techno 457 00:19:59,690 --> 00:20:02,509 and then there's cha cha and samba. 458 00:20:02,510 --> 00:20:04,909 It pretty much sounds like old timey, 459 00:20:04,910 --> 00:20:06,890 old timey music most of the time. 460 00:20:08,310 --> 00:20:09,259 Yeah. 461 00:20:09,260 --> 00:20:11,599 So I think it's most impressive, 462 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,729 however, when the top Windom leader 463 00:20:13,730 --> 00:20:15,829 is off because there's moving parts 464 00:20:15,830 --> 00:20:18,109 and beautiful wiring in this sort 465 00:20:18,110 --> 00:20:19,879 of thing. So I really wanted to emphasize 466 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:20,880 that. 467 00:20:22,970 --> 00:20:25,069 Yeah. So I have a couple of the 468 00:20:25,070 --> 00:20:26,119 videos here. 469 00:20:26,120 --> 00:20:28,249 Maybe we watch one or two, but you can 470 00:20:28,250 --> 00:20:30,379 watch them all online as 471 00:20:30,380 --> 00:20:31,380 well. 472 00:20:32,180 --> 00:20:33,180 So 473 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:35,880 take a little break. 474 00:20:52,390 --> 00:20:53,390 Six. 475 00:20:58,510 --> 00:21:00,489 Ladies and gentlemen, we are gathered 476 00:21:00,490 --> 00:21:02,379 here today to witness the Technicolor 477 00:21:02,380 --> 00:21:04,209 mystery, that is the tone generating 478 00:21:04,210 --> 00:21:05,950 circuitry of Simon five thousand. 479 00:21:07,070 --> 00:21:09,049 One of Simon's central goals is to 480 00:21:09,050 --> 00:21:10,639 convince the human ear that it is 481 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,769 producing real life instruments and 482 00:21:12,770 --> 00:21:15,679 this is what we call sound synthesis. 483 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,779 Now, try saying that three times that 484 00:21:17,780 --> 00:21:19,879 sound synthesis, sound synthesis, 485 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,949 synthesis is the technique 486 00:21:21,950 --> 00:21:23,899 of generating sounds from scratch using 487 00:21:23,900 --> 00:21:26,539 electronic news flash people. 488 00:21:26,540 --> 00:21:28,039 Simon isn't the only machine that 489 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,229 synthesizers found any of the loop 490 00:21:30,230 --> 00:21:32,119 sounds or computer or video games make 491 00:21:32,120 --> 00:21:34,999 all generate audio using this technique. 492 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,289 And just like the guts of the tone 493 00:21:36,290 --> 00:21:38,539 generator, synthesizing sound can seem 494 00:21:38,540 --> 00:21:39,659 quite complicated. 495 00:21:39,660 --> 00:21:41,419 But what we have to keep in mind here is 496 00:21:41,420 --> 00:21:43,189 that the science behind sound synthesis 497 00:21:43,190 --> 00:21:45,079 is derived from how real life spans are 498 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:46,039 produced. 499 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,229 As you know, sounds are waves of air 500 00:21:48,230 --> 00:21:49,609 that travel in different patterns with 501 00:21:49,610 --> 00:21:51,709 varying frequency and amplitude, and our 502 00:21:51,710 --> 00:21:53,809 human ears can make sense of a wide range 503 00:21:53,810 --> 00:21:54,810 of frequencies. 504 00:21:56,190 --> 00:21:57,829 For instance, these sounds. 505 00:22:00,130 --> 00:22:02,349 Our high frequency and this 506 00:22:02,350 --> 00:22:03,350 sound 507 00:22:05,140 --> 00:22:07,419 is very low in level, the brains 508 00:22:07,420 --> 00:22:09,369 behind sound synthesis have applied math 509 00:22:09,370 --> 00:22:10,989 to the physics of sound, and once we've 510 00:22:10,990 --> 00:22:12,969 got numbers, we can engineer electronic 511 00:22:12,970 --> 00:22:14,829 models that allow us to manipulate waves 512 00:22:14,830 --> 00:22:16,779 of electrons so that they behave the same 513 00:22:16,780 --> 00:22:18,989 way as we sound 514 00:22:18,990 --> 00:22:22,029 to systems inside of Simon's 515 00:22:22,030 --> 00:22:22,959 right. 516 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,039 This is what we call our 517 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,189 Suay Noise 518 00:22:27,190 --> 00:22:29,559 people. I put the wrong one on, 519 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,689 but there is a whole section that you 520 00:22:31,690 --> 00:22:32,589 are going to see. 521 00:22:32,590 --> 00:22:34,149 We'll just skip over and look at the tone 522 00:22:34,150 --> 00:22:35,230 generators. All right. 523 00:22:49,370 --> 00:22:51,529 So Simon is going to play some 524 00:22:51,530 --> 00:22:53,329 broken down tango and we're going to take 525 00:22:53,330 --> 00:22:55,039 a closer look at what's going on with the 526 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,529 troops inside a home generators. 527 00:22:57,530 --> 00:22:59,659 Now up in this corner here, we have 528 00:22:59,660 --> 00:23:01,129 an AC nine two. 529 00:23:01,130 --> 00:23:02,599 This is a very important part of the 530 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,759 circuit because this tube is in charge of 531 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,709 generating all the signals required to 532 00:23:06,710 --> 00:23:08,719 make all of the seismic sounds. 533 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,879 So in a way, it's sort of like genesis 534 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,219 of cell synthesis inside five 535 00:23:13,220 --> 00:23:14,220 thousand. 536 00:23:14,810 --> 00:23:16,759 Further down, we have these three tubes 537 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,199 here behind s.E.C. 538 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,749 Eight three NBCC nine two 539 00:23:20,750 --> 00:23:22,609 and the F ninety three. 540 00:23:22,610 --> 00:23:24,469 They're part of this circuit that I just 541 00:23:24,470 --> 00:23:26,149 mentioned here, that they're also 542 00:23:26,150 --> 00:23:28,249 connected to the SHEMER generator and the 543 00:23:28,250 --> 00:23:30,319 Schimmer generator is creating 544 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,439 symbols across 545 00:23:33,740 --> 00:23:34,740 America. 546 00:23:36,290 --> 00:23:38,429 Now, if I pull out the 547 00:23:38,430 --> 00:23:41,119 F 93 C here, 548 00:23:41,120 --> 00:23:43,339 that pulling out one of Simon's teeth. 549 00:23:43,340 --> 00:23:44,340 Yeah. 550 00:23:44,930 --> 00:23:47,059 And the down on symbols, we 551 00:23:47,060 --> 00:23:48,599 don't have anything anymore. 552 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,719 Now, if I put 553 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,819 it back in Marmolejo 554 00:23:52,820 --> 00:23:53,820 yet carefully 555 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,279 symbols is back in pictures. 556 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,409 No below we have a 557 00:24:00,410 --> 00:24:02,839 series of four s.E.C. 558 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,039 Eighty threes. 559 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,109 And inside each of these 560 00:24:06,110 --> 00:24:07,909 glass envelopes we actually have two 561 00:24:07,910 --> 00:24:09,919 elements of each element just controlling 562 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,079 one of the other cells that Simon 563 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,239 makes. And either half 564 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:15,319 of the two. 565 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,989 We have something called 566 00:24:17,990 --> 00:24:19,579 a trigger protection order. 567 00:24:19,580 --> 00:24:20,839 And this is something that can be 568 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,569 adjusted to change the 569 00:24:23,570 --> 00:24:25,459 the filter or the tone filter. 570 00:24:25,460 --> 00:24:27,619 And then that allows us to sort of change 571 00:24:27,620 --> 00:24:29,089 the tenor of the sound that's being 572 00:24:29,090 --> 00:24:30,090 created. 573 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,389 What's cool about this chamber pot is 574 00:24:32,390 --> 00:24:34,219 it's got a specific little spot for me to 575 00:24:34,220 --> 00:24:35,569 jam a screwdriver in. 576 00:24:35,570 --> 00:24:37,639 And I can do that here right 577 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,170 now. Affecting Temple Block. 578 00:24:48,510 --> 00:24:49,859 I think that sounds a bit better. 579 00:24:51,570 --> 00:24:52,769 Come on, I mean. 580 00:24:59,960 --> 00:25:02,089 Now, lastly, up in this 581 00:25:02,090 --> 00:25:04,249 corner here, we have s.E.C 582 00:25:04,250 --> 00:25:07,369 83 and this section of 583 00:25:07,370 --> 00:25:09,659 the circuit is a corporate 584 00:25:09,660 --> 00:25:11,749 amplification. So all of the signals that 585 00:25:11,750 --> 00:25:13,939 are being generated inside this part 586 00:25:13,940 --> 00:25:16,069 of end up over here where they get 587 00:25:16,070 --> 00:25:18,139 boosted once before going 588 00:25:18,140 --> 00:25:20,089 down over to the amplifier. 589 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,919 So I should point out, Simon is a bit 590 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,019 of a beast, I 591 00:25:29,020 --> 00:25:31,419 got her a lot of the time 592 00:25:31,420 --> 00:25:33,549 along the way, there's 593 00:25:33,550 --> 00:25:35,889 parts where there's like 300 volts 594 00:25:35,890 --> 00:25:36,789 coursing through. 595 00:25:36,790 --> 00:25:37,790 And it's like I 596 00:25:38,980 --> 00:25:41,259 or I thought 597 00:25:41,260 --> 00:25:43,239 it would be cool to do performances with 598 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,459 it. And the first one I did I 599 00:25:45,460 --> 00:25:47,859 like bent over to use my mixer. 600 00:25:47,860 --> 00:25:50,049 And I had just gotten my my hair 601 00:25:50,050 --> 00:25:52,149 cut and it was too short to put in 602 00:25:52,150 --> 00:25:54,279 a ponytail like I usually have, which is 603 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,039 not just for fashion but for function. 604 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,349 And my hair got caught in the rotor 605 00:26:00,910 --> 00:26:03,039 and a big clump of it came out and I sort 606 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,809 of disappeared behind the machine for a 607 00:26:04,810 --> 00:26:06,459 few minutes while I tried to figure out 608 00:26:06,460 --> 00:26:08,079 what to do with myself. 609 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:09,759 So I don't really do performances with 610 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:10,760 that anymore. 611 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,029 Anyhow, as I mentioned before, 612 00:26:16,030 --> 00:26:18,339 there's an increasing number 613 00:26:18,340 --> 00:26:21,399 of people and 614 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,529 women to taking part in this 615 00:26:24,610 --> 00:26:26,859 world of DIY videos. 616 00:26:26,860 --> 00:26:29,319 And one controversial 617 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,929 figure who I kind of really 618 00:26:31,930 --> 00:26:34,209 love is 619 00:26:34,210 --> 00:26:36,339 Naomi Wu, the real sexy cyborg. 620 00:26:36,340 --> 00:26:37,420 Do people follow her? 621 00:26:38,590 --> 00:26:40,929 Yeah. OK, so 622 00:26:40,930 --> 00:26:41,930 she's from 623 00:26:43,270 --> 00:26:45,699 Shenzhen and she makes videos 624 00:26:45,700 --> 00:26:47,409 in her workshop. A lot of it has to do 625 00:26:47,410 --> 00:26:49,479 with 3D printing and coding 626 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,879 and other things. She's pretty like into 627 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,639 her, like badass cyberpunk style. 628 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:55,640 So there's a lot of 629 00:26:56,980 --> 00:26:58,839 fashion related hacks too. 630 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,819 And she's also a pretty strong advocate 631 00:27:00,820 --> 00:27:02,829 for women in science 632 00:27:04,210 --> 00:27:06,699 technology, STEM, as they call it, 633 00:27:06,700 --> 00:27:09,159 transhumanism opensource 634 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,869 and body modifications. 635 00:27:10,870 --> 00:27:13,089 So also, if you can see, she's 636 00:27:13,090 --> 00:27:15,609 done a lot of work on her body because 637 00:27:15,610 --> 00:27:17,410 she's like becoming a cyborg. 638 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,009 But unfortunately, 639 00:27:21,010 --> 00:27:23,109 there is this scandal that 640 00:27:23,110 --> 00:27:25,299 occurred where the CEO of Make 641 00:27:25,300 --> 00:27:27,429 magazine actually didn't believe that 642 00:27:27,430 --> 00:27:28,869 she was a real thing. 643 00:27:28,870 --> 00:27:31,149 Like the idea was like too mind blowing 644 00:27:31,150 --> 00:27:33,399 for him to think that there wasn't like 645 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,769 people behind this woman doing DIY 646 00:27:35,770 --> 00:27:37,510 videos with the 3D printer. 647 00:27:38,950 --> 00:27:41,349 So she called it the equivalent 648 00:27:41,350 --> 00:27:43,539 of getting GamerGate by 649 00:27:43,540 --> 00:27:45,459 him. But what was really interesting is 650 00:27:45,460 --> 00:27:46,460 she's 651 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,629 she's pretty persistent. 652 00:27:49,630 --> 00:27:51,409 She was pointing people to her. 653 00:27:51,410 --> 00:27:53,619 EFIC, U.S., if you were ever interested 654 00:27:53,620 --> 00:27:54,819 in reading it, which gives a really 655 00:27:54,820 --> 00:27:57,369 interesting background into her esthetic 656 00:27:57,370 --> 00:27:59,829 and the way that she moves about 657 00:27:59,830 --> 00:28:01,569 her city and the big differences that 658 00:28:01,570 --> 00:28:03,729 might occur between what people consider 659 00:28:03,730 --> 00:28:06,049 sexy or what have you between 660 00:28:06,050 --> 00:28:08,409 a Chinese culture and Western 661 00:28:08,410 --> 00:28:10,299 culture. So this was pretty interesting. 662 00:28:10,300 --> 00:28:12,369 And eventually she got 663 00:28:12,370 --> 00:28:15,009 she did get a apology 664 00:28:15,010 --> 00:28:17,649 from the CEO of MAKE, 665 00:28:17,650 --> 00:28:20,329 which was quite a thing to happen. 666 00:28:20,330 --> 00:28:21,849 Now, unfortunately, though, 667 00:28:22,950 --> 00:28:25,059 MAKE has continued 668 00:28:25,060 --> 00:28:26,499 to have a bit of 669 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,069 problems, even in the German 670 00:28:30,070 --> 00:28:32,049 publications. 671 00:28:32,050 --> 00:28:34,209 There's this one publication, the 672 00:28:34,210 --> 00:28:35,290 Smart Home Hacks, 673 00:28:36,310 --> 00:28:38,409 and there's 674 00:28:38,410 --> 00:28:40,149 in the introduction, there's a section 675 00:28:40,150 --> 00:28:42,699 called about Wah 676 00:28:42,700 --> 00:28:45,699 Wah. I translated it from German 677 00:28:45,700 --> 00:28:47,799 and WOF refers to something called 678 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,989 The Wife Acceptance Factor, 679 00:28:51,790 --> 00:28:53,349 which let me read here. 680 00:28:55,900 --> 00:28:58,329 Wife acceptance factor or 681 00:28:58,330 --> 00:29:00,579 wife approval factor is 682 00:29:00,580 --> 00:29:02,709 an assessment of design element that 683 00:29:02,710 --> 00:29:04,419 either increases or diminishes the 684 00:29:04,420 --> 00:29:06,160 likelihood of a wife 685 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,519 approving the purchase of 686 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,679 expensive consumer electronic 687 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,209 products such as High Fidelity 688 00:29:13,210 --> 00:29:14,389 loudspeakers. 689 00:29:14,390 --> 00:29:15,390 It's like, OK, 690 00:29:16,450 --> 00:29:18,639 that's a I didn't I didn't know that one 691 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,449 before and I kind of like old things. 692 00:29:20,450 --> 00:29:22,599 I was a bit surprised by this, but I 693 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,339 was more than anything, a bit 694 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,209 more surprised by what this what this 695 00:29:28,210 --> 00:29:29,859 book was saying. So if you look at the 696 00:29:29,860 --> 00:29:32,199 sections that I've highlighted here, I'm 697 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,179 saying only a few things would make me 698 00:29:34,180 --> 00:29:36,069 more happy than if a woman would pick up 699 00:29:36,070 --> 00:29:38,379 a screwdriver after reading this book 700 00:29:38,380 --> 00:29:40,329 to replace her regular light switches 701 00:29:40,330 --> 00:29:41,589 with radio controlled buttons. 702 00:29:41,590 --> 00:29:43,899 And I don't know if we need a book 703 00:29:43,900 --> 00:29:46,989 to tell us to pick up a screwdriver. 704 00:29:46,990 --> 00:29:49,599 And then later on 705 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,819 it goes on to say that she will go 706 00:29:51,820 --> 00:29:54,099 ballistic if 707 00:29:54,100 --> 00:29:56,349 the self install radio controlled alarm 708 00:29:56,350 --> 00:29:58,059 system cannot be shut off in the most 709 00:29:58,060 --> 00:29:59,529 simplest ways. 710 00:29:59,530 --> 00:30:01,329 And he, on the other hand, will open the 711 00:30:01,330 --> 00:30:03,969 case and bypass the right context. 712 00:30:03,970 --> 00:30:06,039 So anyways, I 713 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,079 think this was an attempt at a joke. 714 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,359 However, I don't think it's very funny 715 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,489 and I don't think that I would go 716 00:30:12,490 --> 00:30:14,829 ballistic in this instance. 717 00:30:14,830 --> 00:30:16,959 I mean, they go ballistic if people are 718 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,089 making jokes at the expense of 719 00:30:19,090 --> 00:30:20,229 my people. 720 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:22,729 So this is one of the. 721 00:30:22,730 --> 00:30:25,759 Things that still occurs when 722 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,619 entering into this discussion of 723 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,979 a DIY 724 00:30:30,980 --> 00:30:33,379 DIY culture 725 00:30:33,380 --> 00:30:35,549 while being a woman. 726 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,210 Now, what are you going to do? 727 00:30:40,810 --> 00:30:42,190 Wedding, thank. 728 00:30:44,380 --> 00:30:46,279 And what are you going to do now? 729 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,329 Is it going to kind of look at that 730 00:30:49,330 --> 00:30:50,739 look at that concept, but through a 731 00:30:50,740 --> 00:30:52,989 different lens, they're going to switch a 732 00:30:52,990 --> 00:30:55,989 little bit into this next part. 733 00:30:55,990 --> 00:30:58,239 And I'm going to give 734 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,999 you guys a little brief introduction to 735 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,189 to the history of a Cold War, 736 00:31:03,190 --> 00:31:05,409 Eastern Germany, which feels funny 737 00:31:05,410 --> 00:31:07,809 because I'm here in Leipzig. 738 00:31:07,810 --> 00:31:09,879 So just it's just some very 739 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:10,880 brief points 740 00:31:12,190 --> 00:31:15,189 during this time when the wall was up 741 00:31:15,190 --> 00:31:17,469 on this side where we are now 742 00:31:17,470 --> 00:31:19,389 in the east, there was really a scarcity 743 00:31:19,390 --> 00:31:21,459 of raw materials and industrial 744 00:31:21,460 --> 00:31:22,429 materials. 745 00:31:22,430 --> 00:31:24,669 There is an abundant skilled 746 00:31:24,670 --> 00:31:25,839 workforce. 747 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,969 There was a severe import 748 00:31:27,970 --> 00:31:30,399 restrictions and limited access 749 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,229 to domestic technology and household 750 00:31:32,230 --> 00:31:33,249 electronics. 751 00:31:33,250 --> 00:31:34,809 But there was a strong culture of 752 00:31:34,810 --> 00:31:36,099 ingenuity and repair. 753 00:31:37,420 --> 00:31:39,159 One of the things that I noticed myself 754 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:40,779 doing, especially when I started out 755 00:31:40,780 --> 00:31:42,399 doing electronics, was I was always 756 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,979 trying to find other people like me 757 00:31:44,980 --> 00:31:47,079 in in 758 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,189 electronics. 759 00:31:48,190 --> 00:31:50,349 So if you can imagine, it's 760 00:31:50,350 --> 00:31:52,509 kind of exciting to find a 761 00:31:52,510 --> 00:31:54,249 user manual where there's a woman fixing 762 00:31:54,250 --> 00:31:55,389 a lawnmower. 763 00:31:55,390 --> 00:31:57,550 And it turns out that 764 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,599 there's actually in the GDR, 765 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:02,650 a lot of women 766 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,909 showing us how lawnmowers 767 00:32:06,910 --> 00:32:07,910 work. 768 00:32:08,550 --> 00:32:11,109 Now, this idea of equality 769 00:32:11,110 --> 00:32:12,489 of women was a very strong, 770 00:32:13,540 --> 00:32:15,459 strongly propagated goal. 771 00:32:15,460 --> 00:32:16,749 Like this is something that's very 772 00:32:16,750 --> 00:32:19,389 present in socialism. 773 00:32:19,390 --> 00:32:21,699 So that's part of the socialist 774 00:32:21,700 --> 00:32:22,599 ideology. 775 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,609 But at the same time, there was a lot of 776 00:32:24,610 --> 00:32:26,859 people who didn't come back 777 00:32:26,860 --> 00:32:28,959 from the war. So women needed to 778 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,369 take on a more 779 00:32:33,190 --> 00:32:35,979 a role that was outside of the home, 780 00:32:35,980 --> 00:32:39,129 for instance, to help rebuild, 781 00:32:39,130 --> 00:32:42,699 rebuild the country afterwards. 782 00:32:42,700 --> 00:32:45,099 So like people 783 00:32:45,100 --> 00:32:46,539 who are once housewives were all of a 784 00:32:46,540 --> 00:32:48,669 sudden in brigades to rebuild. 785 00:32:48,670 --> 00:32:50,739 So it was normal that 786 00:32:50,740 --> 00:32:52,389 there was this sort of imagery going 787 00:32:52,390 --> 00:32:54,459 around to encourage people to 788 00:32:54,460 --> 00:32:56,889 be women, to be 789 00:32:56,890 --> 00:32:59,139 taking on responsibilities that might 790 00:32:59,140 --> 00:33:01,239 have otherwise been just seen 791 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:02,319 for men. 792 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,179 And there was yeah. 793 00:33:04,180 --> 00:33:06,939 So I have a collection of these manuals 794 00:33:06,940 --> 00:33:09,219 and I will point out a lot of people ask, 795 00:33:09,220 --> 00:33:11,379 how did I come across the 796 00:33:11,380 --> 00:33:12,669 trolley cars? 797 00:33:12,670 --> 00:33:14,979 And me and I 798 00:33:14,980 --> 00:33:17,469 did live in Vimal, 799 00:33:17,470 --> 00:33:19,270 which is pretty close by for 800 00:33:20,530 --> 00:33:22,599 about a couple of years while 801 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,189 I worked at the university there and I 802 00:33:24,190 --> 00:33:26,769 lived with a retired television 803 00:33:26,770 --> 00:33:27,849 repairman. 804 00:33:27,850 --> 00:33:30,129 That's this guy, that's Wolfie. 805 00:33:30,130 --> 00:33:32,259 And his 806 00:33:32,260 --> 00:33:34,329 home really hasn't changed since the 807 00:33:34,330 --> 00:33:36,339 wall came down, which is really 808 00:33:36,340 --> 00:33:37,779 interesting for me. 809 00:33:37,780 --> 00:33:39,549 And it was interesting for him to have 810 00:33:39,550 --> 00:33:41,559 somebody around that wanted to look at 811 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,419 the old televisions that he would fix in 812 00:33:43,420 --> 00:33:44,420 this sort of thing. 813 00:33:45,410 --> 00:33:47,619 So I spent a lot of time learning how 814 00:33:47,620 --> 00:33:48,620 things were 815 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,759 learning German at the same time. 816 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,329 And this is what it all revolved around. 817 00:33:53,330 --> 00:33:54,789 I was looking at this old technique. 818 00:33:56,530 --> 00:33:58,689 I found this I thought maybe people 819 00:33:58,690 --> 00:34:00,789 at the CCC might find 820 00:34:00,790 --> 00:34:03,009 this interesting. He was also 821 00:34:03,010 --> 00:34:05,109 making plans for 822 00:34:05,110 --> 00:34:07,929 fixing keys and getting into locks. 823 00:34:07,930 --> 00:34:09,999 People might be here 824 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,919 anyways. One of the things that I would 825 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:12,969 do is 826 00:34:14,409 --> 00:34:15,459 work in the garden. 827 00:34:17,150 --> 00:34:19,488 And so here we have the Toli 828 00:34:19,489 --> 00:34:21,799 and I mean, there's something 829 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,169 quite captivating 830 00:34:24,170 --> 00:34:26,448 about it. I mean, I this 831 00:34:26,449 --> 00:34:28,218 is this helmet looking thing. 832 00:34:28,219 --> 00:34:30,129 This is just the motor hood, OK? 833 00:34:30,130 --> 00:34:31,939 There's slots in it for there to be air 834 00:34:31,940 --> 00:34:32,899 circulation. 835 00:34:32,900 --> 00:34:35,329 But I couldn't quite help but feel 836 00:34:35,330 --> 00:34:37,729 like there's definitely like something 837 00:34:37,730 --> 00:34:39,799 menacing about that lawnmower. 838 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,749 And it looks like it's about to like, do 839 00:34:41,750 --> 00:34:43,939 more on the grass 840 00:34:43,940 --> 00:34:44,940 in the yard. 841 00:34:46,850 --> 00:34:48,919 I mean, I, I don't 842 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,988 think I don't think 843 00:34:50,989 --> 00:34:52,939 it was like meant to be that way. 844 00:34:52,940 --> 00:34:54,559 I think this is pure functionality. 845 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,509 But as an artist, I'm looking at this and 846 00:34:56,510 --> 00:34:58,789 it's really inspires me in a certain 847 00:34:58,790 --> 00:34:59,389 way. 848 00:34:59,390 --> 00:35:01,009 So the project that I'm look that I'm 849 00:35:01,010 --> 00:35:02,869 working on right now is this idea of 850 00:35:02,870 --> 00:35:03,870 reimagining 851 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,249 GDR technology 852 00:35:07,250 --> 00:35:09,259 in the age of planned obsolescence. 853 00:35:09,260 --> 00:35:11,269 And the idea is, can deconstructing 854 00:35:11,270 --> 00:35:13,429 socialist era technology and 855 00:35:13,430 --> 00:35:15,589 connecting it to present day 856 00:35:15,590 --> 00:35:17,389 digital culture offer alternative 857 00:35:17,390 --> 00:35:19,459 readings of our critical entanglement 858 00:35:19,460 --> 00:35:21,349 with technology? 859 00:35:21,350 --> 00:35:23,719 So what kind of patterns 860 00:35:23,720 --> 00:35:26,089 and juxtapositions emerge when domestic 861 00:35:26,090 --> 00:35:28,159 electronics and commonplace attitudes, 862 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,139 cultural practices and techniques that 863 00:35:30,140 --> 00:35:31,669 surrounded technology from this 864 00:35:31,670 --> 00:35:34,219 historically significant socialist period 865 00:35:34,220 --> 00:35:36,529 inhabit the realms of capitalist 866 00:35:36,530 --> 00:35:37,549 culture? 867 00:35:37,550 --> 00:35:39,949 I'm specifically interested in this 868 00:35:39,950 --> 00:35:42,109 idea of use 869 00:35:42,110 --> 00:35:44,479 and reuse. And when we look at how people 870 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,909 from the GDR were 871 00:35:46,910 --> 00:35:49,489 and are still working with technology, 872 00:35:49,490 --> 00:35:51,469 this question of obsolescence becomes a 873 00:35:51,470 --> 00:35:52,999 bit blurry because things keep getting 874 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,349 repaired and keep working. 875 00:35:55,370 --> 00:35:57,229 Meanwhile, the rest of the world keeps 876 00:35:57,230 --> 00:35:59,449 buying new lawnmowers. 877 00:35:59,450 --> 00:36:01,579 And so I'll 878 00:36:01,580 --> 00:36:02,899 show you a bit of the work that I've done 879 00:36:02,900 --> 00:36:03,900 so far with it. 880 00:36:04,940 --> 00:36:05,940 Um. 881 00:36:07,490 --> 00:36:09,650 I worked on this. 882 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,749 Introduction video with 883 00:36:13,750 --> 00:36:15,969 AGF, who's a 884 00:36:15,970 --> 00:36:18,249 musician who's also from the 885 00:36:18,250 --> 00:36:19,419 originally from the GDR. 886 00:36:22,990 --> 00:36:25,009 And the idea here is to to look at the 887 00:36:25,010 --> 00:36:28,029 sort of object, the fetishized objects 888 00:36:28,030 --> 00:36:30,219 that we see in tech 889 00:36:30,220 --> 00:36:31,220 culture now. 890 00:36:33,100 --> 00:36:34,570 And sort of apply it to this 891 00:36:35,620 --> 00:36:36,620 motor hood. 892 00:38:51,030 --> 00:38:53,429 Has anybody that anybody is there anybody 893 00:38:53,430 --> 00:38:55,379 in the audience that had a totally 894 00:38:55,380 --> 00:38:56,489 Langmore? 895 00:38:56,490 --> 00:38:58,829 Yes. And where were you, like, 896 00:38:58,830 --> 00:38:59,830 scared of it? 897 00:39:02,580 --> 00:39:03,580 I'm kidding. 898 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,050 Yeah. So anyhow, 899 00:39:08,370 --> 00:39:10,709 I'm presently also working on 900 00:39:10,710 --> 00:39:13,259 a series of photographs with the 901 00:39:13,260 --> 00:39:15,090 let's just call them Helminths, 902 00:39:16,860 --> 00:39:18,239 because that's what they are really 903 00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:19,529 looking like. 904 00:39:19,530 --> 00:39:21,779 So I had I when 905 00:39:21,780 --> 00:39:23,909 I first came across the 906 00:39:23,910 --> 00:39:26,009 the lawn mower in my yard and my 907 00:39:26,010 --> 00:39:27,749 mom, I was like, oh, man, this thing is 908 00:39:27,750 --> 00:39:29,219 so special and unique. 909 00:39:29,220 --> 00:39:31,110 How do I get all of them? 910 00:39:32,220 --> 00:39:34,229 And then I realized I don't have to worry 911 00:39:34,230 --> 00:39:36,419 because eBay Kleinhenz is full 912 00:39:36,420 --> 00:39:38,609 of people selling parts, 913 00:39:38,610 --> 00:39:40,679 selling blades, selling just 914 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,359 the motor hoods. 915 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,789 And I'm now part of this cool 916 00:39:44,790 --> 00:39:47,129 club of old guys that 917 00:39:47,130 --> 00:39:48,179 trades parts. 918 00:39:48,180 --> 00:39:50,549 And sometimes I can have one motor 919 00:39:50,550 --> 00:39:52,709 hood if I give like a motor bed 920 00:39:52,710 --> 00:39:54,479 or if I have wheels or something like 921 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:55,679 this. So it's really fun. 922 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,929 It's like often it's, you know, 923 00:39:57,930 --> 00:39:59,009 and then sometimes they get very 924 00:39:59,010 --> 00:40:00,269 skeptical. They're like, what are you 925 00:40:00,270 --> 00:40:01,229 doing with all these? 926 00:40:01,230 --> 00:40:02,609 You got seven trollies. 927 00:40:02,610 --> 00:40:04,049 And I'm like, I'm an artist. 928 00:40:04,050 --> 00:40:05,309 They're like, I don't care. 929 00:40:05,310 --> 00:40:06,509 You can't have it. 930 00:40:06,510 --> 00:40:08,279 You can't have them if you don't need 931 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,459 them. So, yeah, I have to 932 00:40:10,460 --> 00:40:12,689 look down to downplay that part because 933 00:40:12,690 --> 00:40:13,979 it doesn't get me very far. 934 00:40:15,660 --> 00:40:17,819 So yeah, the photographs 935 00:40:17,820 --> 00:40:19,979 are large scale, although that 936 00:40:19,980 --> 00:40:21,030 kid's pretty small too. 937 00:40:25,350 --> 00:40:27,509 And I'm putting 938 00:40:27,510 --> 00:40:29,449 them in on unbuckles 939 00:40:30,450 --> 00:40:31,499 on pedestals. 940 00:40:31,500 --> 00:40:33,329 So they look like they had this history 941 00:40:33,330 --> 00:40:35,399 as like some warrior, the 942 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:36,449 warrior of the lawn. 943 00:40:37,980 --> 00:40:39,809 And yeah, actually there'll be an 944 00:40:39,810 --> 00:40:42,329 exhibition in April at 945 00:40:42,330 --> 00:40:44,459 Filton and this this work will 946 00:40:44,460 --> 00:40:45,460 be part of it. 947 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,479 And I will close by showing you the next 948 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,579 most inspiring lawnmower from 949 00:40:50,580 --> 00:40:52,169 the GDR. 950 00:40:52,170 --> 00:40:55,469 There's something quite lovely 951 00:40:55,470 --> 00:40:57,719 about the Z 952 00:40:57,720 --> 00:40:59,519 r m 450. 953 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,109 Now, what you purchase, 954 00:41:02,220 --> 00:41:05,249 what you purchase is you get 955 00:41:05,250 --> 00:41:07,980 the chassis of your lawnmower 956 00:41:09,660 --> 00:41:12,129 and then you find somebody that has 957 00:41:12,130 --> 00:41:13,619 a ball of 958 00:41:14,820 --> 00:41:17,789 Bulmash. You screwed 959 00:41:17,790 --> 00:41:19,889 a trailer electric drill 960 00:41:19,890 --> 00:41:22,619 and then you put both of them together. 961 00:41:22,620 --> 00:41:24,509 When I looked in these, I didn't laugh 962 00:41:24,510 --> 00:41:26,279 like you guys were. This is like restored 963 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:27,719 my faith in humanity. 964 00:41:27,720 --> 00:41:29,549 I was like, this is amazing. 965 00:41:29,550 --> 00:41:32,069 You know, you this is really a concept 966 00:41:32,070 --> 00:41:34,259 that's useful for us now to think like 967 00:41:34,260 --> 00:41:36,029 we don't need more stuff. 968 00:41:36,030 --> 00:41:37,379 We just need to make friends with the 969 00:41:37,380 --> 00:41:39,479 neighbor who has the thing that we need 970 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,789 to make our lawnmower work. 971 00:41:41,790 --> 00:41:44,369 And I like this idea of fuzing two 972 00:41:44,370 --> 00:41:46,409 pieces of technology and getting 973 00:41:46,410 --> 00:41:48,669 something new out of it. 974 00:41:48,670 --> 00:41:51,329 So based on this 975 00:41:51,330 --> 00:41:54,029 new wonderful 976 00:41:54,030 --> 00:41:55,030 insight, 977 00:41:56,190 --> 00:41:59,429 the next plan with the with the 978 00:41:59,430 --> 00:42:01,709 poly is to try to 979 00:42:01,710 --> 00:42:04,529 somehow turn it into a record player. 980 00:42:04,530 --> 00:42:06,359 The motor goes pretty fast on the 981 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:07,949 totally. But I think I could slow it 982 00:42:07,950 --> 00:42:10,289 down. And there's lots 983 00:42:10,290 --> 00:42:11,849 of information out there in the high 984 00:42:11,850 --> 00:42:13,169 fidelity world of 985 00:42:15,410 --> 00:42:17,909 record turntable building 986 00:42:17,910 --> 00:42:19,679 about how to build your own record 987 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,899 player. So the idea is to really, like, 988 00:42:21,900 --> 00:42:24,179 smash some of these Charly's into making 989 00:42:24,180 --> 00:42:27,389 a music thing that can play music. 990 00:42:27,390 --> 00:42:29,789 So, yeah, and that's 991 00:42:29,790 --> 00:42:32,039 the end. And just a small reminder 992 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,739 for New Years to 993 00:42:34,740 --> 00:42:36,239 make sure to turn off your computer 994 00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:37,379 before midnight. 995 00:42:37,380 --> 00:42:38,380 Thank you. 996 00:42:50,030 --> 00:42:52,579 Very inspiring talk, I'd say, 997 00:42:52,580 --> 00:42:53,580 on. 998 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,849 We now have about like 15 999 00:43:00,850 --> 00:43:03,399 minutes for questions, so a lot of time. 1000 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:04,479 Keep them coming. 1001 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:05,890 The mikes are open for you. 1002 00:43:07,630 --> 00:43:10,089 I also wanted to know if there's people 1003 00:43:10,090 --> 00:43:12,159 who have the 1004 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,289 people who have the email or the 1005 00:43:14,290 --> 00:43:15,579 lunch at home. 1006 00:43:15,580 --> 00:43:17,679 I would like to 1007 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:18,909 talk with you about it. 1008 00:43:18,910 --> 00:43:21,369 Or in general, in general, 1009 00:43:21,370 --> 00:43:23,499 just your experience 1010 00:43:23,500 --> 00:43:25,719 from from this time and 1011 00:43:25,720 --> 00:43:27,819 now, just with tech, because this is my 1012 00:43:27,820 --> 00:43:28,929 main big interest. 1013 00:43:30,390 --> 00:43:31,390 Yeah. 1014 00:43:34,110 --> 00:43:35,679 I have a case I have a background in 1015 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,019 dance and theater, and 1016 00:43:38,020 --> 00:43:40,269 so I wonder in the community I come 1017 00:43:40,270 --> 00:43:42,699 from, I see you two times 1018 00:43:42,700 --> 00:43:43,700 with Adidas 1019 00:43:45,130 --> 00:43:47,019 and so I wonder what you see idea with 1020 00:43:47,020 --> 00:43:49,179 the Adidas, because 1021 00:43:49,180 --> 00:43:51,609 as a community I come from you just 1022 00:43:51,610 --> 00:43:52,569 don't like that. 1023 00:43:52,570 --> 00:43:54,489 You do. Oh, well, there's two things 1024 00:43:54,490 --> 00:43:55,679 about that jacket. 1025 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,329 OK, first of all, 1026 00:43:58,330 --> 00:44:01,149 it's a vintage Adidas jacket. 1027 00:44:01,150 --> 00:44:03,279 And when you move in it, 1028 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,499 you feel like people like you feel 1029 00:44:05,500 --> 00:44:06,909 kind of like a superhero. 1030 00:44:06,910 --> 00:44:09,279 And I think this is an important part 1031 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,439 of standing up in front of a bunch of 1032 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,839 people and explaining how 1033 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,520 sound synthesis works. 1034 00:44:16,540 --> 00:44:18,669 And also I 1035 00:44:18,670 --> 00:44:21,549 teach a lot of a lot of electronics 1036 00:44:21,550 --> 00:44:23,379 related courses and sometimes it's 1037 00:44:23,380 --> 00:44:24,729 fucking boring. 1038 00:44:24,730 --> 00:44:26,859 And I somehow feel that if I get up there 1039 00:44:26,860 --> 00:44:29,139 and sort of like remind 1040 00:44:29,140 --> 00:44:30,699 people that there's something exciting 1041 00:44:30,700 --> 00:44:32,889 going on, they'll somehow be part 1042 00:44:32,890 --> 00:44:35,259 of my take part 1043 00:44:35,260 --> 00:44:37,359 in the discussion more. 1044 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,639 So it wasn't a new Adidas jacket. 1045 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,139 It was very old. 1046 00:44:41,140 --> 00:44:43,869 And yeah, 1047 00:44:43,870 --> 00:44:45,999 it was to make myself 1048 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,729 feel good and to 1049 00:44:48,730 --> 00:44:51,129 encourage people to so to watch 1050 00:44:51,130 --> 00:44:53,119 me in the machine. 1051 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,000 It was a tactic like that. 1052 00:45:00,860 --> 00:45:02,400 Too bad I didn't bring the again. 1053 00:45:05,870 --> 00:45:07,849 So do we have another question? 1054 00:45:07,850 --> 00:45:10,689 Yeah. Microphone two, please. 1055 00:45:10,690 --> 00:45:12,650 I just 1056 00:45:14,330 --> 00:45:17,029 think someone could fit his head inside 1057 00:45:17,030 --> 00:45:18,030 the. 1058 00:45:19,240 --> 00:45:21,159 And I like how happy 1059 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,190 everybody puts it on their head. 1060 00:45:29,050 --> 00:45:30,879 They get confused when they have like the 1061 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,199 Turbo One with three slots. 1062 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,329 Now, what's interesting, though, is 1063 00:45:34,330 --> 00:45:36,549 that the material that 1064 00:45:36,550 --> 00:45:38,259 it's made out of varies quite a lot. 1065 00:45:38,260 --> 00:45:39,279 There's something that's very hard 1066 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,019 plastic and some that's very light. 1067 00:45:42,020 --> 00:45:44,439 You could you could wear it as 1068 00:45:46,180 --> 00:45:48,369 to your next fight 1069 00:45:48,370 --> 00:45:50,949 club. If you want to 1070 00:45:50,950 --> 00:45:53,109 scare somebody, you 1071 00:45:53,110 --> 00:45:54,280 could wear it. Yeah, 1072 00:45:56,020 --> 00:45:58,359 like putting it on top of my hat 1073 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,489 and maybe put another one on top of 1074 00:46:00,490 --> 00:46:02,859 that, just like try 1075 00:46:02,860 --> 00:46:05,139 working out with some lights and 1076 00:46:05,140 --> 00:46:07,239 a hot dog going 1077 00:46:07,240 --> 00:46:09,279 here and my go. 1078 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:10,719 I've got quite a few. 1079 00:46:10,720 --> 00:46:12,909 If you ever wanted to test it out, I 1080 00:46:12,910 --> 00:46:15,189 personally won't go that that 1081 00:46:15,190 --> 00:46:17,679 route with 1082 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,029 the performative thing. 1083 00:46:19,030 --> 00:46:21,189 But yeah, I think it could be it could 1084 00:46:21,190 --> 00:46:23,259 be fun if somebody else 1085 00:46:23,260 --> 00:46:24,260 did it. 1086 00:46:27,670 --> 00:46:28,959 Thanks for this question. 1087 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,269 I think we have a question from fashion 1088 00:46:31,270 --> 00:46:33,679 related questions and 1089 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,799 it goes to I 1090 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,329 think we have a question from the 1091 00:46:37,330 --> 00:46:38,739 Internet. 1092 00:46:38,740 --> 00:46:40,959 Yes. First of all, 1093 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,029 of course, everybody should invest 1094 00:46:43,030 --> 00:46:45,189 in Longmont's now because of the prices 1095 00:46:45,190 --> 00:46:46,149 will rise. 1096 00:46:46,150 --> 00:46:47,310 I think after the stock 1097 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,939 exchange is asking, what machines 1098 00:46:51,940 --> 00:46:53,679 are you going to build in the future? 1099 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,269 Are there any upcoming projects? 1100 00:46:56,270 --> 00:46:58,509 And of course, there's 1101 00:46:58,510 --> 00:47:00,399 always many machines that I'm thinking 1102 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,709 about, the next one being 1103 00:47:02,710 --> 00:47:05,919 the the record player. 1104 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,000 But there's also 1105 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,449 from learning about sidemen, I really 1106 00:47:10,450 --> 00:47:12,699 dove into this world of vacuum 1107 00:47:12,700 --> 00:47:14,859 tubes and there's a vacuum tube that's 1108 00:47:14,860 --> 00:47:15,969 called the mercury 1109 00:47:17,500 --> 00:47:18,829 rectifier. 1110 00:47:18,830 --> 00:47:20,289 It's quicksilver. 1111 00:47:20,290 --> 00:47:22,759 And the way it generates electronics 1112 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,269 is electrons as it heats 1113 00:47:25,270 --> 00:47:28,029 up, mercury and this beautiful blue cloud 1114 00:47:28,030 --> 00:47:29,269 glows. 1115 00:47:29,270 --> 00:47:30,819 It's really fascinating to look at, but 1116 00:47:30,820 --> 00:47:33,039 it's also kind of creepy to think that 1117 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,259 these were like heavily used 1118 00:47:35,260 --> 00:47:37,449 in industry, like up to 1119 00:47:37,450 --> 00:47:39,609 100 years ago, 1120 00:47:39,610 --> 00:47:42,039 and now they're just sort of 1121 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,049 not used anymore and they're kind of 1122 00:47:44,050 --> 00:47:45,939 hanging out. And I want to track where 1123 00:47:45,940 --> 00:47:48,189 these things might be because mercury 1124 00:47:48,190 --> 00:47:50,769 is a bit of a problem sometimes 1125 00:47:50,770 --> 00:47:52,959 if it's not contained. 1126 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:54,489 So I think I might be looking into 1127 00:47:54,490 --> 00:47:56,919 Mercury rectifiers, but I never know. 1128 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:58,629 Sometimes you just come across I come 1129 00:47:58,630 --> 00:48:00,159 across something and then it just takes 1130 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:01,160 my inspiration. 1131 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,229 Know things like No one 1132 00:48:05,230 --> 00:48:07,509 place, all right, sort of building 1133 00:48:07,510 --> 00:48:09,849 on that on future ideas and 1134 00:48:09,850 --> 00:48:11,610 the long that's 1135 00:48:12,790 --> 00:48:14,590 run from a drill motor. 1136 00:48:15,610 --> 00:48:17,679 Do you have any ideas of these kinds of 1137 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,329 combinations that we could be doing in 1138 00:48:19,330 --> 00:48:20,920 our lives or in 1139 00:48:22,610 --> 00:48:23,579 in. 1140 00:48:23,580 --> 00:48:26,169 Yeah, not not yet. 1141 00:48:26,170 --> 00:48:28,599 But I mean, I would like to maybe 1142 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,699 work with my students specifically 1143 00:48:30,700 --> 00:48:33,219 on this topic in a in a seminar, 1144 00:48:33,220 --> 00:48:35,469 do workshops where it's specifically on 1145 00:48:35,470 --> 00:48:37,539 smashing two things together 1146 00:48:37,540 --> 00:48:38,540 or more. 1147 00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,199 Yeah. Do you have any ideas. 1148 00:48:42,700 --> 00:48:43,779 That's what I'm curious. 1149 00:48:43,780 --> 00:48:45,819 No, not not yet. 1150 00:48:45,820 --> 00:48:48,009 But I really like this idea of 1151 00:48:48,010 --> 00:48:49,090 something becoming 1152 00:48:50,110 --> 00:48:52,299 repurposed and work 1153 00:48:52,300 --> 00:48:54,010 and being worked through in another way. 1154 00:48:56,330 --> 00:48:58,939 Mike and Mike, number four, please. 1155 00:48:58,940 --> 00:49:00,319 Hi, thank you for the talk. 1156 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,269 It was very inspirational and I have a 1157 00:49:02,270 --> 00:49:03,379 similar question. 1158 00:49:03,380 --> 00:49:05,269 If you could only work on one machine for 1159 00:49:05,270 --> 00:49:06,379 the rest of your life, what would that 1160 00:49:06,380 --> 00:49:07,380 be? 1161 00:49:09,210 --> 00:49:11,519 What kind of question is that 1162 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:12,520 difficult? 1163 00:49:14,700 --> 00:49:16,799 Well, I mean, here's the thing, like 1164 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,749 a machine can be many things, right? 1165 00:49:18,750 --> 00:49:20,909 Like a wedge that 1166 00:49:20,910 --> 00:49:24,089 like it's yeah, I don't know, 1167 00:49:24,090 --> 00:49:25,090 a slinky. 1168 00:49:26,850 --> 00:49:28,770 I don't know. I'm not sure 1169 00:49:30,810 --> 00:49:32,669 this ironmen is really fulfilling. 1170 00:49:32,670 --> 00:49:34,739 There's so many parts to it 1171 00:49:35,820 --> 00:49:37,829 that I could potentially work with that 1172 00:49:37,830 --> 00:49:39,929 again. I mean, I also work very 1173 00:49:39,930 --> 00:49:42,599 extensively for 1174 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,339 with sound and electro mechanics with the 1175 00:49:44,340 --> 00:49:45,600 five five five timer. 1176 00:49:46,730 --> 00:49:48,839 And this gets me really far as 1177 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,479 far as pushing it for 1178 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:52,859 in many different ways. 1179 00:49:52,860 --> 00:49:54,989 This is an integrated circuit that's you 1180 00:49:54,990 --> 00:49:57,689 can create a clock 1181 00:49:57,690 --> 00:49:59,969 of different frequencies with and 1182 00:49:59,970 --> 00:50:01,649 it's all over the place. 1183 00:50:01,650 --> 00:50:03,239 So this one, I would say, is the one that 1184 00:50:03,240 --> 00:50:05,459 I've really gotten 1185 00:50:05,460 --> 00:50:07,769 like I could almost build in my sleep. 1186 00:50:07,770 --> 00:50:10,109 So, yeah, that maybe 1187 00:50:10,110 --> 00:50:12,209 it would be the five five five timer. 1188 00:50:12,210 --> 00:50:13,229 Thank you. 1189 00:50:13,230 --> 00:50:14,409 Yeah, thanks. 1190 00:50:14,410 --> 00:50:16,679 We have another question from the 1191 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,299 Internet. 1192 00:50:18,300 --> 00:50:20,399 CIBM users asking, 1193 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,739 have you ever seen KC 1194 00:50:22,740 --> 00:50:25,289 85, which is a computer 1195 00:50:25,290 --> 00:50:27,459 from the German Democratic Republic? 1196 00:50:27,460 --> 00:50:29,669 I haven't seen it yet, but I want 1197 00:50:29,670 --> 00:50:30,670 to. 1198 00:50:31,770 --> 00:50:34,079 Yeah, no, not yet. 1199 00:50:35,540 --> 00:50:39,019 Right, things like number two, please. 1200 00:50:39,020 --> 00:50:40,309 All right, thanks. 1201 00:50:41,450 --> 00:50:42,619 You know, I love your work. 1202 00:50:43,870 --> 00:50:45,709 I'm just wondering because there's a bit 1203 00:50:45,710 --> 00:50:48,349 of socialism missing from this project, 1204 00:50:48,350 --> 00:50:49,729 and I'm wondering if you have thought 1205 00:50:49,730 --> 00:50:51,889 about what record you 1206 00:50:51,890 --> 00:50:53,610 will use on the side. 1207 00:50:55,730 --> 00:50:57,919 I yeah, good question. 1208 00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,079 I have no idea yet. 1209 00:51:01,910 --> 00:51:04,069 I have no I have no I don't 1210 00:51:04,070 --> 00:51:06,499 know. Maybe I have to build 1211 00:51:06,500 --> 00:51:08,719 a sleeve to cut 1212 00:51:08,720 --> 00:51:10,819 the record and then go from there. 1213 00:51:10,820 --> 00:51:11,820 I'm not sure 1214 00:51:13,220 --> 00:51:15,649 this is what's keeping me up at night, 1215 00:51:15,650 --> 00:51:16,650 by the way. 1216 00:51:20,070 --> 00:51:22,399 Yeah. Is no place 1217 00:51:23,510 --> 00:51:25,579 that I this is the first 1218 00:51:25,580 --> 00:51:26,899 I see of your work and I think it is 1219 00:51:26,900 --> 00:51:29,209 amazing. So you've got a new floor. 1220 00:51:29,210 --> 00:51:31,429 And also have you 1221 00:51:31,430 --> 00:51:33,559 done these kinds of projects 1222 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,109 with like modern Intec, the Post. 1223 00:51:36,110 --> 00:51:37,159 Two thousand. 1224 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,849 Uh, no, not normally 1225 00:51:40,850 --> 00:51:42,469 post 12. 1226 00:51:42,470 --> 00:51:44,239 Like garbage you waste. 1227 00:51:45,500 --> 00:51:47,779 OK, one thing that often 1228 00:51:47,780 --> 00:51:49,969 gets dissected in workshops that I do is 1229 00:51:49,970 --> 00:51:51,919 the three and one printer, because that 1230 00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,229 thing's full of really useful parts. 1231 00:51:54,230 --> 00:51:56,569 Um, but otherwise I just 1232 00:51:56,570 --> 00:51:58,759 like look at something that's seemed like 1233 00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,589 surface mount components. 1234 00:52:00,590 --> 00:52:03,079 I'm like you boring. 1235 00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,539 I can so not 1236 00:52:05,540 --> 00:52:08,359 so much there or do I. 1237 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,159 Yeah, no. I'm mainly interested in things 1238 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:11,689 that have motors. 1239 00:52:11,690 --> 00:52:14,299 So the, the, the three and one 1240 00:52:14,300 --> 00:52:16,729 Ganor printer thing is a pretty 1241 00:52:16,730 --> 00:52:17,959 is a pretty big deal. 1242 00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,239 I did a workshop where one 1243 00:52:20,240 --> 00:52:22,339 of the students stripped it down and 1244 00:52:22,340 --> 00:52:24,229 built like this and there was ink left 1245 00:52:24,230 --> 00:52:26,419 over and he built like this 1246 00:52:26,420 --> 00:52:28,669 like Poca postapocalyptic 1247 00:52:28,670 --> 00:52:30,950 tattoo parlor slash machine. 1248 00:52:31,970 --> 00:52:33,829 I wasn't, I didn't stick around for the 1249 00:52:35,210 --> 00:52:36,559 better part. 1250 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,179 I make tattoos, but yeah. 1251 00:52:39,380 --> 00:52:40,789 Yeah, I can. 1252 00:52:40,790 --> 00:52:42,259 Number four, please. 1253 00:52:42,260 --> 00:52:44,329 I had, um, thank 1254 00:52:44,330 --> 00:52:46,849 you first of all for pointing out the 1255 00:52:46,850 --> 00:52:49,579 wife acceptance factor bullshit 1256 00:52:49,580 --> 00:52:52,249 and also showing me 1257 00:52:52,250 --> 00:52:55,039 which whose work I also think is really 1258 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,439 great and weird and provokes, 1259 00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,869 of course, a lot of discourse 1260 00:52:59,870 --> 00:53:02,239 also in the feminist movement, I guess 1261 00:53:02,240 --> 00:53:03,499 whatever. 1262 00:53:03,500 --> 00:53:05,449 But I was wondering, as of course 1263 00:53:05,450 --> 00:53:07,579 statistics still show that there's 1264 00:53:07,580 --> 00:53:09,379 less female engineers and stuff like 1265 00:53:09,380 --> 00:53:11,839 that. Um, how do you consider 1266 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:13,969 your role, female role 1267 00:53:13,970 --> 00:53:16,099 model function and what 1268 00:53:16,100 --> 00:53:17,239 is it with your students? 1269 00:53:17,240 --> 00:53:19,279 Are there a lot of female students and 1270 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,009 what do you do especially to encourage 1271 00:53:22,010 --> 00:53:23,569 girls? 1272 00:53:23,570 --> 00:53:25,699 Um, I don't do much 1273 00:53:25,700 --> 00:53:27,639 other than just show up. 1274 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,559 Um, yeah. 1275 00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,659 I think in the in the 1276 00:53:32,660 --> 00:53:34,789 education in the 1277 00:53:34,790 --> 00:53:36,979 education 1278 00:53:36,980 --> 00:53:39,319 bubble, um, if 1279 00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,269 I'm if I'm there teaching, there's just 1280 00:53:41,270 --> 00:53:43,459 generally in the art 1281 00:53:43,460 --> 00:53:45,079 school at least, there's generally young 1282 00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:46,820 young women, young women 1283 00:53:47,870 --> 00:53:50,149 and and men. 1284 00:53:50,150 --> 00:53:52,429 I try to make a space that really 1285 00:53:52,430 --> 00:53:53,430 encourages 1286 00:53:54,740 --> 00:53:57,109 like failure is just as important 1287 00:53:57,110 --> 00:53:58,130 as a success 1288 00:53:59,240 --> 00:54:01,009 because this is an important link. 1289 00:54:01,010 --> 00:54:03,289 I feel like a lot of people 1290 00:54:03,290 --> 00:54:05,539 don't necessarily recognize that, 1291 00:54:05,540 --> 00:54:07,189 like when you're doing this kind of 1292 00:54:07,190 --> 00:54:08,149 thing, like, of course, you're going to 1293 00:54:08,150 --> 00:54:09,319 break something. 1294 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:10,789 And that's sometimes the way that you 1295 00:54:10,790 --> 00:54:13,639 learn. Um, and. 1296 00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,239 Yeah, just also, I think 1297 00:54:18,240 --> 00:54:20,219 that there's this idea that we have about 1298 00:54:20,220 --> 00:54:22,349 how electronics needs to be taught, like 1299 00:54:22,350 --> 00:54:24,089 you need to do Ohm's Law first and you 1300 00:54:24,090 --> 00:54:25,739 need to do this in these equations. 1301 00:54:25,740 --> 00:54:27,959 And I'm like, to me, this is not 1302 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:29,189 how I learned it. 1303 00:54:29,190 --> 00:54:31,059 I learned I walked into it backwards. 1304 00:54:31,060 --> 00:54:33,119 You know, I was an IV technician 1305 00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:34,769 at school and I had to learn how to use a 1306 00:54:34,770 --> 00:54:37,319 multimeter that had like a needle. 1307 00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,479 And I didn't know what the hell 1308 00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,519 I was doing. So I just spent a lot of 1309 00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,249 time inventing 1310 00:54:44,250 --> 00:54:46,199 things and then eventually came around to 1311 00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:47,429 figuring out how it worked. 1312 00:54:47,430 --> 00:54:49,709 So it's more about an exploration and 1313 00:54:49,710 --> 00:54:51,510 discovery and also knowing that 1314 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,139 you can look at look for patterns 1315 00:54:55,140 --> 00:54:56,999 instead of thinking that you need to know 1316 00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:58,019 a theory. 1317 00:54:58,020 --> 00:55:00,119 And sometimes if something's not working 1318 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:01,919 right, but it's doing something, maybe 1319 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,329 that's interesting enough and you can 1320 00:55:03,330 --> 00:55:05,679 build artwork around that. 1321 00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:06,680 Yeah, 1322 00:55:08,250 --> 00:55:10,139 I think we have another question from the 1323 00:55:10,140 --> 00:55:11,339 Internet. 1324 00:55:11,340 --> 00:55:13,409 Yes, it might be your next big 1325 00:55:13,410 --> 00:55:15,599 project because the stream is asking, 1326 00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,339 would you be interested in participating 1327 00:55:17,340 --> 00:55:19,469 in a lawnmower army workshop at 1328 00:55:19,470 --> 00:55:22,709 the next council computer camp? 1329 00:55:22,710 --> 00:55:24,779 OK, wait, is 1330 00:55:24,780 --> 00:55:25,780 there a prize? 1331 00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,769 I think they're more talking about Wi-Fi 1332 00:55:30,770 --> 00:55:32,839 access points on lawnmowers and other 1333 00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:33,139 things. 1334 00:55:33,140 --> 00:55:34,869 Oh, OK. 1335 00:55:34,870 --> 00:55:36,739 And of course, blinking lights. 1336 00:55:36,740 --> 00:55:38,869 Yeah, of course. 1337 00:55:38,870 --> 00:55:41,059 Of course. I'm interested in making and 1338 00:55:41,060 --> 00:55:43,189 making an army with these with 1339 00:55:43,190 --> 00:55:44,259 these guys. 1340 00:55:44,260 --> 00:55:45,959 Why wouldn't I be? 1341 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,179 Yeah, this is a great idea. 1342 00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,019 I think, 1343 00:55:58,020 --> 00:56:00,899 OK, so no questions 1344 00:56:00,900 --> 00:56:03,269 anymore, then I'd say thank 1345 00:56:03,270 --> 00:56:05,459 you all for these fun and interesting 1346 00:56:05,460 --> 00:56:07,589 questions. And most importantly, thank 1347 00:56:07,590 --> 00:56:10,019 you again for this great talk 1348 00:56:10,020 --> 00:56:11,129 and thank you. 1349 00:56:11,130 --> 00:56:12,629 Such a pleasure to have you. 1350 00:56:12,630 --> 00:56:14,710 Let's give her a last round of the.