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If you are capable, please help us to create good quality subtitles: https://c3subtitles.de/talk/388 Thanks! 1 00:00:09,330 --> 00:00:11,669 So welcome fellow 2 00:00:11,670 --> 00:00:13,979 hackers, scientists, 3 00:00:13,980 --> 00:00:16,049 artists, philosophers 4 00:00:16,050 --> 00:00:17,579 and free thinkers. 5 00:00:17,580 --> 00:00:18,750 I'm very glad you 6 00:00:19,980 --> 00:00:20,549 had time. 7 00:00:20,550 --> 00:00:22,319 You came to this place, you joined us in 8 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,109 this session, found this space time, 9 00:00:25,110 --> 00:00:27,209 and I invite you to tune 10 00:00:27,210 --> 00:00:28,350 your synaptic pathways 11 00:00:29,490 --> 00:00:31,529 and let us show you the latest in human 12 00:00:31,530 --> 00:00:33,989 and machine interaction with the example 13 00:00:33,990 --> 00:00:36,359 of brain computer interfaces, 14 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:38,759 open source brain computer interfaces. 15 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,099 So these are systems 16 00:00:41,100 --> 00:00:43,499 where you connect your mind directly 17 00:00:43,500 --> 00:00:45,659 to a machine. And we all know this from 18 00:00:45,660 --> 00:00:48,089 sci fi movies or literature. 19 00:00:48,090 --> 00:00:50,819 But now it's possible to have electrodes 20 00:00:50,820 --> 00:00:52,859 to put it on the on your on your head, 21 00:00:52,860 --> 00:00:55,259 basically. And with today's 22 00:00:55,260 --> 00:00:58,279 it's simple technology called EEG 23 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,079 in a simple case, because in 24 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,149 at home you cannot have like a big FMI 25 00:01:03,150 --> 00:01:05,488 machine. We use EEG and 26 00:01:05,489 --> 00:01:07,469 this technology is well known in medical 27 00:01:07,470 --> 00:01:09,569 and psychology areas for 28 00:01:09,570 --> 00:01:11,909 eight years. Just what now is possible 29 00:01:11,910 --> 00:01:13,349 to make it miniaturized like what I'm 30 00:01:13,350 --> 00:01:15,389 currently wearing is a wireless neural 31 00:01:15,390 --> 00:01:17,639 headset. It has active tri electrodes 32 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,499 on the forehead where they think the 33 00:01:19,500 --> 00:01:21,629 consciousness is vibrating 34 00:01:21,630 --> 00:01:23,399 and now it's feasible. 35 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:24,779 It used to be possible a long time. 36 00:01:24,780 --> 00:01:26,429 The hippies did it and the military did 37 00:01:26,430 --> 00:01:28,529 it. And measuring the 38 00:01:28,530 --> 00:01:30,449 brain brainwaves, the electroencephalogram. 39 00:01:30,450 --> 00:01:32,849 But now it's possible to miniaturize it. 40 00:01:32,850 --> 00:01:34,290 And for example, simply, 41 00:01:35,340 --> 00:01:37,199 I was going to check the brainwaves while 42 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,569 I'm talking and send them via Wi-Fi 43 00:01:39,570 --> 00:01:40,949 on another VEMA. 44 00:01:40,950 --> 00:01:42,959 And so so it's a new area because now 45 00:01:42,960 --> 00:01:45,239 everybody can do it. It's no longer 46 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:46,799 necessary to have a big lab and an 47 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:47,969 expensive machine. 48 00:01:47,970 --> 00:01:50,279 We are introducing with this talk the 49 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,529 brain Luigino is the device which 50 00:01:52,530 --> 00:01:54,539 you can build for a little less than 100 51 00:01:54,540 --> 00:01:56,639 hundred dollars. And it's a low noise, 52 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,099 high quality brainwave amplifier that 53 00:01:59,100 --> 00:02:00,959 sends you basically a Bluetooth or Wi-Fi 54 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:02,579 signal that you can open with any 55 00:02:02,580 --> 00:02:04,379 programing language. And because of this 56 00:02:04,380 --> 00:02:05,999 new technology, now, this becomes 57 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,919 possible for basically everyone who wants 58 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,228 to do it to use this technology. 59 00:02:10,229 --> 00:02:12,509 And that's why we put so much energy 60 00:02:12,510 --> 00:02:14,429 into having open source technology 61 00:02:14,430 --> 00:02:16,169 available and a low entry barrier. 62 00:02:25,570 --> 00:02:27,669 So I try to for you, try 63 00:02:27,670 --> 00:02:29,949 it for you, find the world's best experts 64 00:02:29,950 --> 00:02:31,509 in this topic. 65 00:02:31,510 --> 00:02:33,669 I myself have come to this 66 00:02:33,670 --> 00:02:35,889 Congress 15 years ago and 67 00:02:35,890 --> 00:02:38,079 was introduced to some new ways 68 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:39,219 of thinking. 69 00:02:39,220 --> 00:02:41,499 And since then, basically, I 70 00:02:41,500 --> 00:02:43,839 worked on this project and then traveled 71 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,879 the world to find other people who know 72 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,699 about this. And so 73 00:02:48,700 --> 00:02:50,829 I'm Dr Evolution is my 74 00:02:50,830 --> 00:02:52,949 stage name. It's a matter of mine 75 00:02:52,950 --> 00:02:55,149 evolution. So it's the middle 76 00:02:55,150 --> 00:02:57,819 level. You think about something from 77 00:02:57,820 --> 00:02:59,409 outside of the system and look at the 78 00:02:59,410 --> 00:03:01,689 system like communication, 79 00:03:01,690 --> 00:03:03,859 talking about how we communicate 80 00:03:03,860 --> 00:03:05,709 holistically, looking at the mind from 81 00:03:05,710 --> 00:03:07,809 the perspective and 82 00:03:07,810 --> 00:03:09,219 giving this to everybody. 83 00:03:09,220 --> 00:03:11,080 And so the evolution of the mind 84 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:13,359 is this project name. 85 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,550 And then the first person who came to me 86 00:03:16,570 --> 00:03:18,789 who wanted to work together 87 00:03:18,790 --> 00:03:20,919 was NeuroFocus and 88 00:03:20,920 --> 00:03:23,059 then also Musleh 89 00:03:23,060 --> 00:03:24,060 Hirakata. 90 00:03:24,790 --> 00:03:26,079 I met him in San Francisco. 91 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,359 He worked on it before 92 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,069 I was born. He worked on it like for 30 93 00:03:30,070 --> 00:03:32,019 or 40 years. He will tell you later about 94 00:03:32,020 --> 00:03:33,069 the history. 95 00:03:33,070 --> 00:03:34,809 And basically, I believe these people on 96 00:03:34,810 --> 00:03:37,149 stage here in the world of open 97 00:03:37,150 --> 00:03:39,099 source, in the world of hacking, outside 98 00:03:39,100 --> 00:03:41,199 of military, outside of medical 99 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:42,309 places. 100 00:03:42,310 --> 00:03:44,439 Are the world's best team here for 101 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,539 you to now introduce you to to this 102 00:03:46,540 --> 00:03:48,519 technology? So first, I'm going to give 103 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,229 you a small overview and maybe some 104 00:03:50,230 --> 00:03:51,230 motivation. 105 00:03:51,940 --> 00:03:54,489 What you can do with this technology then 106 00:03:54,490 --> 00:03:55,599 not really doing. 107 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,459 I like to call him NeuroFocus will tell 108 00:03:57,460 --> 00:03:59,589 you about also the mind hacking aspect 109 00:03:59,590 --> 00:04:01,839 and the science science 110 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,039 aspect. 111 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,539 And then, as I like to call him, 112 00:04:04,540 --> 00:04:06,689 Professor Kahuta, because he's 113 00:04:06,690 --> 00:04:08,979 the old wise guy, he will actually 114 00:04:08,980 --> 00:04:10,869 tell you about the hardware, about the 115 00:04:10,870 --> 00:04:11,889 brain. Do you know how it works? 116 00:04:11,890 --> 00:04:14,079 The amplifier. And what I even like 117 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,208 more is because he has been there since 118 00:04:16,209 --> 00:04:18,309 the beginning, he knows what it 119 00:04:18,310 --> 00:04:19,869 was like. You know, he built the first 120 00:04:19,870 --> 00:04:22,209 brainwave amplifier before there were any 121 00:04:22,210 --> 00:04:23,769 digital computers. So he actually 122 00:04:23,770 --> 00:04:25,869 connected an amplifier to 123 00:04:25,870 --> 00:04:27,489 an oscilloscope and looked at these 124 00:04:27,490 --> 00:04:28,869 brainwaves on an oscilloscope screen. 125 00:04:28,870 --> 00:04:30,699 And when the first personal computer was 126 00:04:30,700 --> 00:04:32,499 available, he did it. 127 00:04:32,500 --> 00:04:34,779 So basically, he has a lot of experience. 128 00:04:34,780 --> 00:04:36,909 And I think it's very interesting to 129 00:04:36,910 --> 00:04:39,129 share the early perspective when it was 130 00:04:39,130 --> 00:04:40,929 not working on this technology and 131 00:04:40,930 --> 00:04:43,659 basically the early days of 132 00:04:43,660 --> 00:04:44,660 brainwave technology. 133 00:04:46,270 --> 00:04:48,399 But if you can look forward to their 134 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:49,989 past as well. 135 00:04:49,990 --> 00:04:52,509 So just a quick overview. 136 00:04:52,510 --> 00:04:54,159 What we are basically doing with those 137 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,379 neural headsets, as people call them now, 138 00:04:56,380 --> 00:04:58,359 is measuring the brain activity. 139 00:04:58,360 --> 00:04:59,979 And it comes from those clusters of 140 00:04:59,980 --> 00:05:02,319 clusters of neurons. We have like 141 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,229 millions, billions of it, and 142 00:05:05,230 --> 00:05:07,839 they generate electromagnetic fields, 143 00:05:07,840 --> 00:05:10,389 which eventually result in small 144 00:05:10,390 --> 00:05:12,399 charge, small voltage differences on the 145 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:13,539 scalp to appear. 146 00:05:13,540 --> 00:05:15,849 And we picked this up with the electrodes 147 00:05:15,850 --> 00:05:18,309 and amplifier 25000 times 148 00:05:18,310 --> 00:05:19,629 and then send it over Bluetooth. 149 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:23,979 And so it's mostly 150 00:05:23,980 --> 00:05:25,910 large scale dynamics, just. 151 00:05:27,050 --> 00:05:29,209 No, most large scale 152 00:05:29,210 --> 00:05:30,889 dynamics, so we cannot pick up individual 153 00:05:30,890 --> 00:05:33,379 thoughts or individual neurons, 154 00:05:33,380 --> 00:05:35,869 just collective, like maybe 50000 155 00:05:35,870 --> 00:05:38,329 neurons when they are firing together, 156 00:05:38,330 --> 00:05:39,589 then we get a small spike. 157 00:05:39,590 --> 00:05:41,959 So basically, it's very abstract, zoomed 158 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:43,759 out a thing. 159 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,889 We cannot detect any individual brains 160 00:05:45,890 --> 00:05:47,539 with this technology in the military. 161 00:05:47,540 --> 00:05:49,729 They can actually put an antenna 162 00:05:49,730 --> 00:05:51,649 to your head from a distance and see the 163 00:05:51,650 --> 00:05:53,609 shapes. What what are you visualizing 164 00:05:53,610 --> 00:05:55,189 currently? If you're dreaming, somebody 165 00:05:55,190 --> 00:05:57,409 can put an antenna to your head and see 166 00:05:57,410 --> 00:05:59,509 in black and white the shape 167 00:05:59,510 --> 00:06:01,699 outline of the person you see, but 168 00:06:01,700 --> 00:06:02,929 not with the egg, e.g. 169 00:06:02,930 --> 00:06:05,119 we get the event rated potentials and 170 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,879 general oscillatory processes 171 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:08,829 collectively. 172 00:06:08,830 --> 00:06:11,059 So if the neurons collectively firing, 173 00:06:11,060 --> 00:06:13,249 so it's more like the background general 174 00:06:13,250 --> 00:06:14,599 operating mode of the brain left and 175 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,729 right brain. So are you sleeping, 176 00:06:16,730 --> 00:06:19,849 dreaming? Highly focused, relaxed. 177 00:06:19,850 --> 00:06:20,959 That's what we can detect. 178 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,329 And then various patterns arise and 179 00:06:23,330 --> 00:06:25,219 at the individual electrodes, but also 180 00:06:25,220 --> 00:06:26,220 how they relate to each other. 181 00:06:29,430 --> 00:06:31,319 So the general different things used to 182 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:32,879 be categorized in different frequencies, 183 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,889 Delta Theta ever waves, what is really 184 00:06:34,890 --> 00:06:36,989 interesting now is this new technology, 185 00:06:36,990 --> 00:06:38,519 because there's almost always so much 186 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,349 noise. If you have any noise in your 187 00:06:40,350 --> 00:06:42,539 environment, even high frequency, you get 188 00:06:42,540 --> 00:06:44,339 harmonics and they could make your signal 189 00:06:44,340 --> 00:06:45,689 clip. You know, we are picking up 190 00:06:45,690 --> 00:06:48,389 individual neurons also because change is 191 00:06:48,390 --> 00:06:49,629 all this noise, reducing the noise. 192 00:06:49,630 --> 00:06:51,989 So it wasn't it wasn't possible to go 193 00:06:51,990 --> 00:06:54,149 up beyond 50 hertz because of the 194 00:06:54,150 --> 00:06:56,219 noise of the transfer transformers 195 00:06:56,220 --> 00:06:58,019 everywhere. So but now we can measure up 196 00:06:58,020 --> 00:06:59,579 to 200 hertz. 197 00:06:59,580 --> 00:07:01,109 It used to be unknown to science that the 198 00:07:01,110 --> 00:07:03,299 gamma and lambda waves and they 199 00:07:03,300 --> 00:07:05,699 are for, you know, exotic state. 200 00:07:05,700 --> 00:07:07,969 But I guess, you know, this is basically 201 00:07:07,970 --> 00:07:09,659 it's let's keep going. 202 00:07:09,660 --> 00:07:10,799 Of course, it's different. You know, 203 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:11,969 which area of the brain you put the 204 00:07:11,970 --> 00:07:13,409 electrodes. If you want to control 205 00:07:13,410 --> 00:07:16,049 things, you put them on the motor cortex 206 00:07:16,050 --> 00:07:17,339 where your whole body is mapped. 207 00:07:17,340 --> 00:07:19,889 So then it's possible to imagine 208 00:07:19,890 --> 00:07:21,779 you make a fist with your left hand. 209 00:07:21,780 --> 00:07:23,639 And now on this area, there will be a 210 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,739 signal coming and on the right 211 00:07:25,740 --> 00:07:27,059 side as well. And they have hundreds of 212 00:07:27,060 --> 00:07:29,429 chimpanzees doing joysticks and getting 213 00:07:29,430 --> 00:07:31,469 sugar water and eventually the chimpanzee 214 00:07:31,470 --> 00:07:32,789 stops using a joystick. 215 00:07:32,790 --> 00:07:35,339 Just imagine doing a movement 216 00:07:35,340 --> 00:07:37,289 and that's how you can do. 217 00:07:37,290 --> 00:07:39,479 Then you would put it to the 218 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:40,819 to the motor cortex. But we are most 219 00:07:40,820 --> 00:07:42,119 interested for artistic purpose and 220 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,039 meditation. The frontal cortex, the the 221 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:45,989 youngest area of the brain with these 222 00:07:45,990 --> 00:07:47,040 patterns that arise, Risalah. 223 00:07:50,430 --> 00:07:52,409 So then the motivation here, why is this 224 00:07:52,410 --> 00:07:54,299 interesting? Of course, you have the 225 00:07:54,300 --> 00:07:56,039 medical use if you have depression, 226 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,139 autism, I like to say our 227 00:07:58,140 --> 00:07:59,699 system simply harmonizers, the brain 228 00:07:59,700 --> 00:08:02,069 activity of different electrodes rewards 229 00:08:02,070 --> 00:08:03,899 you when when you have more synchronicity 230 00:08:03,900 --> 00:08:05,459 in the brain is a complex mathematical 231 00:08:05,460 --> 00:08:06,539 formulas, coherent things. 232 00:08:06,540 --> 00:08:08,339 But whenever your brain is more 233 00:08:08,340 --> 00:08:10,529 synchronous, it rewards 234 00:08:10,530 --> 00:08:12,599 you. So basically, I think it 235 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,729 basically heals any you know, I 236 00:08:14,730 --> 00:08:16,709 used to have very most people have in 237 00:08:16,710 --> 00:08:18,329 their brain waves some some gaps. 238 00:08:18,330 --> 00:08:20,579 And basically this can unlock 239 00:08:20,580 --> 00:08:22,649 all your brain to to to 240 00:08:22,650 --> 00:08:24,779 to vibrate in all kinds of frequencies 241 00:08:24,780 --> 00:08:27,449 and to vibrate more subconsciously. 242 00:08:27,450 --> 00:08:29,879 And as a as a first thing, 243 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,548 of course, you can you can improve 244 00:08:32,549 --> 00:08:33,989 different brainwaves where you are locked 245 00:08:33,990 --> 00:08:35,459 into something like depression. 246 00:08:35,460 --> 00:08:37,769 When you can get out of a mental state, 247 00:08:37,770 --> 00:08:39,689 you can use the neural feedback, the life 248 00:08:39,690 --> 00:08:41,219 visualization of your brain to reward you 249 00:08:41,220 --> 00:08:42,779 whenever you go into a direction that is 250 00:08:42,780 --> 00:08:43,889 out of the state. 251 00:08:43,890 --> 00:08:46,019 And so I believe and some 252 00:08:46,020 --> 00:08:47,639 people say you can cure autism, 253 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,709 depression, but basically it goes 254 00:08:49,710 --> 00:08:51,299 beyond that. You can do self-improvement. 255 00:08:51,300 --> 00:08:53,099 You can you can reprogram mental patterns 256 00:08:53,100 --> 00:08:54,479 because of the real time thing. 257 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,189 You look at your brain oscillating on the 258 00:08:56,190 --> 00:08:57,989 screen, you hear the sound in real time. 259 00:08:57,990 --> 00:08:59,489 Then you can start playing around with 260 00:08:59,490 --> 00:09:01,439 things and you notice how it changes, 261 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:02,909 like surfing, surfing through your own 262 00:09:02,910 --> 00:09:04,949 mind, and thereby you can adjust things. 263 00:09:04,950 --> 00:09:07,319 And eventually people after five minutes, 264 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,059 when they do when you try a system which 265 00:09:09,060 --> 00:09:11,219 is possible later, you can come to to 266 00:09:11,220 --> 00:09:12,539 the neurologist. Might take us long to 267 00:09:12,540 --> 00:09:14,159 try to by yourself. You realize after a 268 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,349 few minutes you can simply use this new 269 00:09:16,350 --> 00:09:17,459 muscle in your mind. 270 00:09:17,460 --> 00:09:19,379 The very people call it chakras or 271 00:09:19,380 --> 00:09:22,049 whatever, you have stuff in your mind you 272 00:09:22,050 --> 00:09:22,319 can do. 273 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:23,730 And if you have to build something, 274 00:09:24,930 --> 00:09:26,549 individual empowerment and enhanced 275 00:09:26,550 --> 00:09:28,199 interactive society because people 276 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:29,789 interact differently, I guess you can 277 00:09:29,790 --> 00:09:30,790 read it yourself. 278 00:09:31,710 --> 00:09:34,139 Art, music games 279 00:09:34,140 --> 00:09:35,889 are very interesting. 280 00:09:35,890 --> 00:09:37,829 I really like to neurofeedback meditation 281 00:09:37,830 --> 00:09:39,059 thing because you can change your 282 00:09:39,060 --> 00:09:40,889 consciousness. You can say I want 12 283 00:09:40,890 --> 00:09:42,539 hertz in the right brain, seven in the 284 00:09:42,540 --> 00:09:43,199 left. 285 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:44,859 And you know, that's the whole thing is 286 00:09:44,860 --> 00:09:46,019 the open source. 287 00:09:46,020 --> 00:09:48,119 There will be the pharmacy industry, 288 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:49,169 there will be Microsoft, Google, 289 00:09:49,170 --> 00:09:50,629 everybody, people will be coming. 290 00:09:50,630 --> 00:09:52,569 And you where those new headsets and we 291 00:09:52,570 --> 00:09:53,609 will improve your mind you. 292 00:09:53,610 --> 00:09:54,989 But you can you can fly through virtual 293 00:09:54,990 --> 00:09:56,879 reality, but they will kind of tell you 294 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,709 use our closed product. 295 00:09:58,710 --> 00:10:00,269 And we have done the research. 296 00:10:00,270 --> 00:10:02,399 We are experts. And just look 297 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,679 at the screen and your mind will improve. 298 00:10:04,680 --> 00:10:07,349 But I say I say to you, 299 00:10:07,350 --> 00:10:09,419 decide for yourself what frequencies and 300 00:10:09,420 --> 00:10:11,249 what brain activity you want to increase 301 00:10:11,250 --> 00:10:13,619 in your mind. And that's why 302 00:10:13,620 --> 00:10:15,029 I recommend using open source software. 303 00:10:15,030 --> 00:10:17,099 And you can simply say, OK, today 304 00:10:17,100 --> 00:10:18,899 I want to try maybe 50 hertz in my right 305 00:10:18,900 --> 00:10:20,999 brain or 42 hertz and 306 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,299 the left brain and the visual cortex 307 00:10:22,300 --> 00:10:24,119 should be at this seven percent. 308 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,039 And then just try this and you can 309 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:27,659 research yourself what you can decide for 310 00:10:27,660 --> 00:10:29,489 yourself, what brainwave activity you 311 00:10:29,490 --> 00:10:31,799 want to amplify in your brain instead of, 312 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,049 you know, getting getting whatever 313 00:10:34,050 --> 00:10:35,249 other people think your brain should be 314 00:10:35,250 --> 00:10:36,809 like. And this this freedom, that's 315 00:10:36,810 --> 00:10:38,070 basically what we fight for. 316 00:10:40,030 --> 00:10:42,279 So definitely a dark 317 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,499 side to it, you know, the mind 318 00:10:44,500 --> 00:10:46,329 taking the it's my thinking going on all 319 00:10:46,330 --> 00:10:48,099 the time in the media and the 320 00:10:48,100 --> 00:10:49,929 brainwashing, but with this, it's really 321 00:10:49,930 --> 00:10:52,489 crazy. It's actually possible all of this 322 00:10:52,490 --> 00:10:54,579 accompanies like a motive, more 323 00:10:54,580 --> 00:10:56,199 and more young people where those new 324 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:57,639 headsets, not cells built like this one, 325 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,619 but commercial plastic devices, they wear 326 00:10:59,620 --> 00:11:01,479 them for extended time and they deal with 327 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,699 World of Warcraft casual gaming 328 00:11:03,700 --> 00:11:04,839 and wear them all the time. 329 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:06,489 And it's possible to hack into those 330 00:11:06,490 --> 00:11:08,759 Windows machines remotely and change 331 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,589 the open driver and, for example, display 332 00:11:11,590 --> 00:11:13,029 for a short amount of times certain 333 00:11:13,030 --> 00:11:14,709 numbers and a symbol, for example, the 334 00:11:14,710 --> 00:11:16,449 symbol of a cash machine just for a few 335 00:11:16,450 --> 00:11:18,159 milliseconds while they're playing a game 336 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,499 and then display certain numbers. 337 00:11:20,500 --> 00:11:22,029 And there's something in the brain. 338 00:11:22,030 --> 00:11:24,549 P300 event created potential 339 00:11:24,550 --> 00:11:26,019 that basically checks all the time. 340 00:11:26,020 --> 00:11:27,009 Oh, I recognize this. 341 00:11:27,010 --> 00:11:28,809 Or I make sense or I have seen this 342 00:11:28,810 --> 00:11:30,499 before. What the fuck is this? 343 00:11:30,500 --> 00:11:32,289 And it's always going to unfold as true 344 00:11:32,290 --> 00:11:34,689 and false whenever you get the stimuli. 345 00:11:34,690 --> 00:11:36,459 And basically you can start data mining 346 00:11:36,460 --> 00:11:38,049 the brain. When somebody is playing a 347 00:11:38,050 --> 00:11:39,949 game, they're completely unaware, you 348 00:11:39,950 --> 00:11:42,099 them certain symbols hidden in the game 349 00:11:42,100 --> 00:11:44,439 or just for individual frames 350 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,419 and then set numbers and their brain will 351 00:11:46,420 --> 00:11:47,889 react and say, yeah, that's that's the 352 00:11:47,890 --> 00:11:49,279 first and that's the second. 353 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:50,229 That's my password. 354 00:11:50,230 --> 00:11:51,579 And you try brute forcing different 355 00:11:51,580 --> 00:11:52,899 numbers and the brain will tell you 356 00:11:52,900 --> 00:11:54,159 that's the password. That's my bank 357 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,299 account. And if some people 358 00:11:56,300 --> 00:11:57,549 of you were wearing a brain interface 359 00:11:57,550 --> 00:11:59,319 now, I could actually do this when I do 360 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,539 the presentation, insert some 361 00:12:01,540 --> 00:12:03,639 small information in this and then 362 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,169 at the end pick out people and say your 363 00:12:05,170 --> 00:12:06,489 birthdate, your PIN number, your 364 00:12:06,490 --> 00:12:07,389 password. 365 00:12:07,390 --> 00:12:09,279 But it's enough to make you aware of 366 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:10,280 this. 367 00:12:10,950 --> 00:12:13,349 And so so that's really scary, 368 00:12:13,350 --> 00:12:14,909 you know, people when they don't know 369 00:12:14,910 --> 00:12:16,319 they wear those headsets and somebody is 370 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,209 actually data mining your brain and, you 371 00:12:18,210 --> 00:12:20,399 know, picking out information and the 372 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,139 remotely, you know, somebody is in front 373 00:12:22,140 --> 00:12:23,489 of you, they can hypnotize you, whatever, 374 00:12:23,490 --> 00:12:25,629 but remotely in a massive scale 375 00:12:25,630 --> 00:12:26,729 would be possible. For example, you do 376 00:12:26,730 --> 00:12:29,279 World of Warcraft and a new plug in 377 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,199 or Facebook, the new plug in to share 378 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,269 your brainwave with your friends and they 379 00:12:33,270 --> 00:12:35,549 upload it sounds 380 00:12:35,550 --> 00:12:37,379 nice, you know, but in all those 381 00:12:37,380 --> 00:12:38,999 quantified self apps, you actually need 382 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,309 three times to press council to disable 383 00:12:41,310 --> 00:12:43,349 the automaker function for you. 384 00:12:43,350 --> 00:12:44,819 So that's an app for checking your pulse, 385 00:12:44,820 --> 00:12:45,779 for checking your breath. 386 00:12:45,780 --> 00:12:47,149 And you need to disable three times to 387 00:12:47,150 --> 00:12:48,989 press council so it's not back up your 388 00:12:48,990 --> 00:12:50,669 data, basically sending your heartbeat 389 00:12:50,670 --> 00:12:51,809 and your brain waves to their server. 390 00:12:51,810 --> 00:12:54,029 And you can do certain machine learning 391 00:12:54,030 --> 00:12:54,359 things. 392 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:55,360 And 393 00:12:56,610 --> 00:12:58,499 it becomes possible on a massive scale to 394 00:12:58,500 --> 00:13:00,689 to surveil the dreams and minds 395 00:13:00,690 --> 00:13:02,609 and and then to decide, like in American 396 00:13:02,610 --> 00:13:04,889 prisons, if you want to get out early, 397 00:13:04,890 --> 00:13:06,569 they check your brainwaves and they say 398 00:13:06,570 --> 00:13:07,709 you have unusual brainwaves. 399 00:13:07,710 --> 00:13:09,329 You cannot go out your brain with a 400 00:13:09,330 --> 00:13:10,949 normal OK, go out in society. 401 00:13:10,950 --> 00:13:12,989 And and then, you know, this danger you 402 00:13:12,990 --> 00:13:14,359 should be aware of. 403 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,499 And for example, they can 404 00:13:16,500 --> 00:13:18,389 also do they can also do the calibration 405 00:13:18,390 --> 00:13:20,489 thing like data 406 00:13:20,490 --> 00:13:21,689 mining, the subconscious, the 407 00:13:21,690 --> 00:13:23,159 neuromarketing, some people like to call 408 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:24,749 it. They show you advertisements, they 409 00:13:24,750 --> 00:13:26,579 show you pictures and they check how your 410 00:13:26,580 --> 00:13:27,809 brain reacts. 411 00:13:27,810 --> 00:13:29,249 So what you can do is 412 00:13:31,020 --> 00:13:33,179 see, for example, the 413 00:13:33,180 --> 00:13:34,949 excitement, attention and mental openness 414 00:13:34,950 --> 00:13:36,149 someone is currently experiencing. 415 00:13:36,150 --> 00:13:37,919 For example, you see on this person at 416 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:39,599 five a.m. whenever they are in the game, 417 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,919 at this point, their mind is very open or 418 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:43,019 they are very excited. 419 00:13:43,020 --> 00:13:44,729 And then you show them the advertisement. 420 00:13:44,730 --> 00:13:47,439 And basically that's like brainwashing 421 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,709 them so much more powerful and 422 00:13:49,710 --> 00:13:50,909 then you should watch out for this. 423 00:13:50,910 --> 00:13:53,009 So that's why we later will propose a 424 00:13:53,010 --> 00:13:55,499 opensource firewall for brain interfaces 425 00:13:55,500 --> 00:13:57,569 that does intrusion detection to 426 00:13:57,570 --> 00:13:59,129 basically check if somebody is mining 427 00:13:59,130 --> 00:14:00,659 your brain and then block the IP. 428 00:14:00,660 --> 00:14:01,660 At least, you know, 429 00:14:02,790 --> 00:14:04,139 the firewall is quite tricky. 430 00:14:04,140 --> 00:14:06,329 You cannot simply say the band pass 431 00:14:06,330 --> 00:14:08,279 filter. You do not allow the 20 Hertz 432 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:09,419 framework. It's more complex. 433 00:14:09,420 --> 00:14:11,249 You have complex patterns to to make a 434 00:14:11,250 --> 00:14:14,069 classifier for brainwaves is 435 00:14:14,070 --> 00:14:15,419 known for the project. 436 00:14:15,420 --> 00:14:16,739 Once we have to classify it, we can do 437 00:14:16,740 --> 00:14:18,929 something like net filter IP tables, 438 00:14:18,930 --> 00:14:20,699 have brain tables. But before this 439 00:14:20,700 --> 00:14:22,919 classifier is available, we 440 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:23,939 can do intrusion detection. 441 00:14:23,940 --> 00:14:25,859 For example, if this P300 happens 442 00:14:25,860 --> 00:14:28,169 unusually often where you are 443 00:14:28,170 --> 00:14:30,179 flying around in space in the game, 444 00:14:32,070 --> 00:14:34,079 the system could check, OK, why is there 445 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,359 so much history going with two of us? 446 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,279 Somebody might be data mining. 447 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:39,549 Your brain block the connection for some 448 00:14:39,550 --> 00:14:40,739 time. 449 00:14:40,740 --> 00:14:42,329 I recommend starting this those 450 00:14:42,330 --> 00:14:44,549 applications if you do neuro gaming 451 00:14:45,930 --> 00:14:47,399 because people can do this also, they can 452 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,219 induce sensory hallucinations. 453 00:14:49,220 --> 00:14:51,269 They can make a screen flickering and at 454 00:14:51,270 --> 00:14:52,499 the same time, check when your brain is 455 00:14:52,500 --> 00:14:53,579 aligned to this. 456 00:14:53,580 --> 00:14:55,319 And then this would be more effective 457 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,569 emotional manipulation. 458 00:14:57,570 --> 00:14:59,549 They then correlated perception filter 459 00:14:59,550 --> 00:15:00,689 adjustment. Yeah, basically it's 460 00:15:00,690 --> 00:15:02,819 brainwashing and the 461 00:15:02,820 --> 00:15:04,859 big marketing companies, maybe, you know, 462 00:15:04,860 --> 00:15:06,959 this guy, they are going to do 463 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:08,609 it and which is fine. 464 00:15:08,610 --> 00:15:09,899 But then if we have open source 465 00:15:09,900 --> 00:15:13,139 alternatives, I think it can be useful. 466 00:15:13,140 --> 00:15:14,429 Yeah, that's the thing with the firewall 467 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,119 you do the event created potentials, 468 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:19,619 dynamic time, fingerprints. 469 00:15:19,620 --> 00:15:20,669 If it's you know, if there's like 470 00:15:20,670 --> 00:15:22,589 somebody scanning for scanning you, you 471 00:15:22,590 --> 00:15:23,939 can see, OK, there are different parts 472 00:15:23,940 --> 00:15:25,919 checked in a certain time interval, maybe 473 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:26,939 randomized or not. 474 00:15:26,940 --> 00:15:28,359 If that happens in your brain, somebody 475 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,299 is mining, they've created potentials. 476 00:15:30,300 --> 00:15:32,399 They will be Redflex later. 477 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,439 The data abstraction signal feature 478 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:35,700 encapsulation filtering. 479 00:15:39,970 --> 00:15:40,970 And then 480 00:15:42,130 --> 00:15:43,719 I want to invite you to think about this, 481 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,999 what would be a consumer 482 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,279 freedom manifesto? So what are the safety 483 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,199 guidelines, what we should be aware of 484 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:51,439 when we construct this technology? 485 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,139 For example, some of you might be joining 486 00:15:53,140 --> 00:15:55,749 Google and Apple or Facebook 487 00:15:55,750 --> 00:15:57,459 and actually program those systems in the 488 00:15:57,460 --> 00:15:59,289 future that, you know, do those brain 489 00:15:59,290 --> 00:16:01,359 interfaces. And then maybe you can think 490 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:02,709 about those issues. 491 00:16:02,710 --> 00:16:04,449 What are the personal rights like 492 00:16:04,450 --> 00:16:05,450 cognitive personal rights 493 00:16:06,540 --> 00:16:08,829 and why those things are maybe 494 00:16:08,830 --> 00:16:11,049 important, maybe it should be preserved, 495 00:16:11,050 --> 00:16:12,879 this individual right that nobody enters 496 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:14,709 your mind and maybe there should be an on 497 00:16:14,710 --> 00:16:16,479 an off switch on every device that has 498 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:17,859 this that actually physically allows you 499 00:16:17,860 --> 00:16:20,229 to switch it on and off and those things 500 00:16:20,230 --> 00:16:21,429 personal home, your safety. 501 00:16:21,430 --> 00:16:22,989 If it was in a medical context, what is 502 00:16:22,990 --> 00:16:24,969 important? Let's collectively think about 503 00:16:24,970 --> 00:16:27,399 this and define this 504 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:28,599 as a safety thing. 505 00:16:30,630 --> 00:16:32,099 So how does it actually look like just 506 00:16:32,100 --> 00:16:33,749 how this actually works, basically 507 00:16:33,750 --> 00:16:35,789 through the electrodes, noise filtering 508 00:16:35,790 --> 00:16:37,769 amplifiers, operation amplifiers, analog 509 00:16:37,770 --> 00:16:38,770 digital conversion. 510 00:16:39,790 --> 00:16:40,899 Then a microcontroller, then the 511 00:16:40,900 --> 00:16:42,729 Bluetooth thing is basically like a 512 00:16:42,730 --> 00:16:44,829 soundcard high quality sound 513 00:16:44,830 --> 00:16:47,019 card for low frequencies, so it's very 514 00:16:47,020 --> 00:16:49,239 linear so that the hardware side is kind 515 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:50,829 of true, that it's more like a sound 516 00:16:50,830 --> 00:16:52,329 platform for low frequencies. 517 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,159 And that's how one visualization can look 518 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:56,329 like you of the left and right brain, you 519 00:16:56,330 --> 00:16:59,059 have all kinds of indicators for for 520 00:16:59,060 --> 00:17:01,519 relaxation, focus and so on. 521 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,410 And what you can do eventually, you know. 522 00:17:04,430 --> 00:17:05,929 The medical people usually look at the 523 00:17:05,930 --> 00:17:08,059 Rossignol, but then at least, you know, 524 00:17:08,060 --> 00:17:09,679 for transformation, that machine learning 525 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,389 stuff can be interesting and. 526 00:17:13,170 --> 00:17:14,729 And especially the machine learning will 527 00:17:14,730 --> 00:17:16,858 be a big topic, um, you 528 00:17:16,859 --> 00:17:18,509 can do all kinds of if you have many 529 00:17:18,510 --> 00:17:19,919 electrodes or if you have multiple 530 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,108 people, ideally I'd give out 20 headsets 531 00:17:22,109 --> 00:17:24,328 to you now and say try this and we would 532 00:17:24,329 --> 00:17:26,699 be machine learning or, 533 00:17:26,700 --> 00:17:27,929 you know, rewarding ourselves with their 534 00:17:27,930 --> 00:17:29,459 brainwaves are similar. 535 00:17:29,460 --> 00:17:30,719 Different machine learning, things you 536 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,059 can do important, I think, is 537 00:17:33,060 --> 00:17:35,009 that you with most machine learning 538 00:17:35,010 --> 00:17:37,109 algorithms, it makes sense to first do 539 00:17:37,110 --> 00:17:38,249 some kind of feature extraction. 540 00:17:38,250 --> 00:17:40,349 Don't fit the raw brainwave signal into 541 00:17:40,350 --> 00:17:42,209 the machine learning first on a feature 542 00:17:42,210 --> 00:17:43,949 extraction, for example, check what is 543 00:17:43,950 --> 00:17:45,899 the Alpha and what is the magnitude of 544 00:17:45,900 --> 00:17:46,799 Alpha Spike? 545 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,019 Or, you know, try to abstract it into 546 00:17:49,020 --> 00:17:50,579 some features. For example, there was an 547 00:17:50,580 --> 00:17:52,169 alpha spike to enforce. 548 00:17:52,170 --> 00:17:54,239 How much percentage of Alpha was 549 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:55,240 ITAM? 550 00:17:59,650 --> 00:18:01,419 And that's how a framework could look 551 00:18:01,420 --> 00:18:02,980 like to to process those brainwave. 552 00:18:06,190 --> 00:18:07,190 And yeah, now 553 00:18:08,950 --> 00:18:10,869 I guess I give over to 554 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,589 your folks who will tell you more 555 00:18:14,590 --> 00:18:16,959 about how this 556 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:17,979 works in detail. 557 00:18:17,980 --> 00:18:20,169 So I'm glad that you're 558 00:18:20,170 --> 00:18:21,499 here. Thank you very much. 559 00:18:21,500 --> 00:18:23,909 I give the microphone to you. 560 00:18:23,910 --> 00:18:26,389 Right. Can I have the presentation? 561 00:18:26,390 --> 00:18:27,390 OK. 562 00:18:28,010 --> 00:18:28,959 All right. 563 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:30,309 Hello, everybody. 564 00:18:30,310 --> 00:18:32,169 So I guess already the time's a little 565 00:18:32,170 --> 00:18:34,899 bit running, so I just 566 00:18:34,900 --> 00:18:37,299 try to focus on the most important 567 00:18:37,300 --> 00:18:38,649 aspects. 568 00:18:38,650 --> 00:18:41,079 So, yeah, I want to talk about 569 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,119 exploiting brain computer interfaces, 570 00:18:43,120 --> 00:18:44,769 which sounds maybe a little bit 571 00:18:46,360 --> 00:18:48,579 like I'm in the rush because I think it 572 00:18:48,580 --> 00:18:50,859 would take at least maybe 10 573 00:18:50,860 --> 00:18:53,019 years. Let's say in the next decade 574 00:18:54,100 --> 00:18:55,869 we will have more Rincón if you don't 575 00:18:55,870 --> 00:18:57,969 face us in mainstream. 576 00:18:57,970 --> 00:19:00,529 But so I still think it's important. 577 00:19:00,530 --> 00:19:01,749 Now think about it. 578 00:19:01,750 --> 00:19:03,129 And that's why ultimately I think it 579 00:19:03,130 --> 00:19:05,469 makes sense that this Congress to 580 00:19:05,470 --> 00:19:06,369 speak about it. 581 00:19:06,370 --> 00:19:08,719 And so as 582 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,779 a might or I did a lot of introduction 583 00:19:10,780 --> 00:19:13,119 to this topic, maybe I just want to focus 584 00:19:13,120 --> 00:19:14,440 on the methods 585 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,589 where I did some research. 586 00:19:17,590 --> 00:19:19,150 And so 587 00:19:20,710 --> 00:19:22,269 basically, of course, there was new 588 00:19:22,270 --> 00:19:23,889 applications with a new technology coming 589 00:19:23,890 --> 00:19:26,289 up. And we had the first neuro 590 00:19:26,290 --> 00:19:27,939 gaming conference in San Francisco this 591 00:19:27,940 --> 00:19:29,919 year. I think this is quite amazing. 592 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:31,839 Um, and yeah, 593 00:19:33,610 --> 00:19:35,289 very much application, actually. 594 00:19:35,290 --> 00:19:38,139 And so those ones are 595 00:19:38,140 --> 00:19:40,449 proposed methods, which sort 596 00:19:40,450 --> 00:19:42,039 of, um. 597 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,799 Yeah. Concern, uh, security and privacy 598 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,259 of of the user, actually. 599 00:19:47,260 --> 00:19:49,449 And I think so one of the most 600 00:19:49,450 --> 00:19:50,739 striking one is the neuromarketing. 601 00:19:50,740 --> 00:19:53,069 I think it can also be misused if 602 00:19:53,070 --> 00:19:55,599 we find ways actually, um, 603 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,729 to look how 604 00:19:57,730 --> 00:19:59,949 somebody thinks about certain commercial. 605 00:19:59,950 --> 00:20:01,989 And if this data somehow leaked out, I 606 00:20:01,990 --> 00:20:03,129 don't know whether it's a good idea, 607 00:20:03,130 --> 00:20:04,629 then, um. 608 00:20:04,630 --> 00:20:06,759 Yeah. Also then there's been a lot of 609 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,069 talk, a lot of um. 610 00:20:09,070 --> 00:20:11,649 Yeah. Publications coming up about 611 00:20:11,650 --> 00:20:13,959 e.g. based biometrics and it's actually 612 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:15,699 rising the last years. 613 00:20:15,700 --> 00:20:17,229 Um, you can see that by the number of 614 00:20:17,230 --> 00:20:19,599 applications and was 615 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:20,529 quite striking I think. 616 00:20:20,530 --> 00:20:22,629 And it's also just um, as 617 00:20:22,630 --> 00:20:24,789 a security matter, fuzed with other kinds 618 00:20:24,790 --> 00:20:26,739 of biometrics. The biometrics, again, 619 00:20:26,740 --> 00:20:28,179 it's like, you know, I guess everybody 620 00:20:28,180 --> 00:20:29,949 else you like fingerprints, for instance. 621 00:20:29,950 --> 00:20:31,089 But the same with brainwave data, 622 00:20:31,090 --> 00:20:33,189 actually. And so 623 00:20:33,190 --> 00:20:35,229 and also Igbos PIN Generator. 624 00:20:35,230 --> 00:20:37,309 Um, I would just scoop up a little bit 625 00:20:37,310 --> 00:20:39,309 of OK, so 626 00:20:40,860 --> 00:20:41,889 that yeah. 627 00:20:41,890 --> 00:20:44,589 The method sort of say I think the most 628 00:20:44,590 --> 00:20:46,599 striking ones I found so far were 629 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,219 actually gathering some information about 630 00:20:48,220 --> 00:20:49,859 your health condition. 631 00:20:49,860 --> 00:20:51,150 And I think this is quite um, 632 00:20:52,250 --> 00:20:54,399 uh, well, not so 633 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,889 shocking I say, but um, 634 00:20:56,890 --> 00:20:59,589 somehow could be, um, 635 00:20:59,590 --> 00:21:01,899 strange. And then also and there was this 636 00:21:01,900 --> 00:21:04,389 publication, maybe some of you read it 637 00:21:04,390 --> 00:21:07,129 came out of 2012 about, uh, 638 00:21:07,130 --> 00:21:09,699 uh, channel attacks and, um, 639 00:21:09,700 --> 00:21:12,639 the use of BCI motive 640 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,709 and why they said they would lower 641 00:21:14,710 --> 00:21:16,809 the entropy of the information by 642 00:21:16,810 --> 00:21:19,329 almost 40 percent and, 643 00:21:19,330 --> 00:21:21,729 for instance, find a little bit or 644 00:21:21,730 --> 00:21:23,969 find out the PIN code or locations and 645 00:21:23,970 --> 00:21:26,859 people. And then what I say is, uh, also, 646 00:21:26,860 --> 00:21:29,109 um, possibly 647 00:21:29,110 --> 00:21:31,299 to some extent there might be identity 648 00:21:31,300 --> 00:21:32,989 theft possible. 649 00:21:32,990 --> 00:21:33,990 I say this 650 00:21:35,470 --> 00:21:36,819 maybe because it depends, of course, on 651 00:21:36,820 --> 00:21:38,799 the system, how sophisticated it is. 652 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,019 But let's say for the, uh, for 653 00:21:41,020 --> 00:21:43,269 the less sophisticated systems, that 654 00:21:43,270 --> 00:21:45,069 would be definitely possible. 655 00:21:45,070 --> 00:21:47,379 And so the first 656 00:21:47,380 --> 00:21:49,599 thing about health, actually, uh, 657 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:50,649 you are getting information about your 658 00:21:50,650 --> 00:21:53,379 health. Um, basically 659 00:21:53,380 --> 00:21:54,380 there's this 660 00:21:55,450 --> 00:21:56,679 there's like, for instance, normative 661 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,779 databases, uh, which is quite 662 00:21:58,780 --> 00:22:01,299 popular and, uh, 663 00:22:01,300 --> 00:22:03,369 in medical and 664 00:22:03,370 --> 00:22:05,499 the medical scope. And you do lots 665 00:22:05,500 --> 00:22:07,659 of ECG recordings, a lot of people, and 666 00:22:07,660 --> 00:22:10,299 you can sort them by age, Kendrew. 667 00:22:10,300 --> 00:22:12,489 And, uh, and then you also 668 00:22:12,490 --> 00:22:14,799 have a, for instance, healthy people 669 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,109 and then you have some sort of, 670 00:22:17,110 --> 00:22:19,479 for instance, neurological disorders 671 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,209 and you're able to make, um, estimation, 672 00:22:22,210 --> 00:22:24,369 compare the user's framework with 673 00:22:24,370 --> 00:22:26,619 this database and say, OK, so 674 00:22:26,620 --> 00:22:28,689 he must be somewhere in the 675 00:22:28,690 --> 00:22:31,149 30s maybe and has this kind of 676 00:22:31,150 --> 00:22:33,519 disorder and, um, OK, maybe would 677 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,319 not take him for this job or something 678 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:36,939 like that, for instance. 679 00:22:36,940 --> 00:22:39,249 I mean, if he had this affair and 680 00:22:39,250 --> 00:22:41,529 OK, so then the knowledge 681 00:22:41,530 --> 00:22:43,989 this is what I already, um, 682 00:22:43,990 --> 00:22:46,209 said about this is again 683 00:22:46,210 --> 00:22:48,729 the P300 already talked about it. 684 00:22:48,730 --> 00:22:50,739 Um, just very quick, I guess. 685 00:22:50,740 --> 00:22:53,049 Uh, um, 686 00:22:53,050 --> 00:22:55,129 yeah. So I would say this 687 00:22:55,130 --> 00:22:56,130 attention driven 688 00:22:57,190 --> 00:22:59,259 reaction to something that 689 00:22:59,260 --> 00:23:01,459 you see or something that you hear it the 690 00:23:01,460 --> 00:23:03,609 interesting thing, the stimulus there is 691 00:23:03,610 --> 00:23:05,140 it doesn't matter which kind of stimulus. 692 00:23:06,260 --> 00:23:08,389 But we have targets and targets. 693 00:23:08,390 --> 00:23:09,859 That's how we divide and for instance, 694 00:23:09,860 --> 00:23:11,929 you see a lot of resources, a 695 00:23:11,930 --> 00:23:14,329 lot of pictures of people, and 696 00:23:14,330 --> 00:23:15,889 she doesn't know them at all. But at some 697 00:23:15,890 --> 00:23:17,959 point, somebody who knows and we have 698 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,879 the P300, for instance, that is because 699 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,199 it's striking to him. 700 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,099 He knows the guy. 701 00:23:22,100 --> 00:23:23,399 And what is he doing? 702 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:24,559 This collection of pictures, for 703 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,959 instance. And so this is basically 704 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,359 what a MARTINOVICH and his colleagues 705 00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:30,360 did from 706 00:23:32,030 --> 00:23:34,309 the University of Oxford and UC 707 00:23:34,310 --> 00:23:36,229 Berkeley and Caneva. 708 00:23:36,230 --> 00:23:39,109 Um, so they had some kind of calibration. 709 00:23:39,110 --> 00:23:41,869 And what they did then set the, 710 00:23:41,870 --> 00:23:44,419 um, that could simplify 711 00:23:44,420 --> 00:23:47,329 the way to achieve private information. 712 00:23:47,330 --> 00:23:48,469 And I found this quite striking. 713 00:23:48,470 --> 00:23:50,569 I mean, it's leape situation and so 714 00:23:50,570 --> 00:23:52,999 everything is perfect. But imagine 715 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,289 also, of course, with the advance of 716 00:23:54,290 --> 00:23:56,569 machine learning algorithms, you could 717 00:23:56,570 --> 00:23:58,669 somehow make it more easy, 718 00:23:58,670 --> 00:24:01,099 actually, to get there and 719 00:24:01,100 --> 00:24:03,139 do it even on consumer devices. 720 00:24:03,140 --> 00:24:05,359 So, I mean, this was also his point of. 721 00:24:05,360 --> 00:24:07,639 And then so the last thing I'd 722 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,129 just make a quick, uh, um, 723 00:24:10,130 --> 00:24:11,809 time's running off is 724 00:24:13,100 --> 00:24:15,289 biometrics. Uh, as 725 00:24:15,290 --> 00:24:17,779 I said already, it's like, um, 726 00:24:17,780 --> 00:24:19,969 there's a lot of research right now 727 00:24:19,970 --> 00:24:22,279 going on there and different approaches 728 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,679 to this. And as I said, I made this 729 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,929 differentiation between sort 730 00:24:26,930 --> 00:24:29,329 of say, um, I would say primitive, 731 00:24:29,330 --> 00:24:31,039 but more easy approaches where I just 732 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,759 take frequent, uh, or 733 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,109 a certain frequency 734 00:24:36,110 --> 00:24:37,279 ranges. 735 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,349 I find on the individual 736 00:24:39,350 --> 00:24:41,929 a peak. And and 737 00:24:41,930 --> 00:24:44,209 they claim, for instance, this very 738 00:24:44,210 --> 00:24:46,309 old publication. But it's still going on 739 00:24:46,310 --> 00:24:48,289 that, um, they claim that they have very 740 00:24:48,290 --> 00:24:50,749 high accuracy rates here and 741 00:24:50,750 --> 00:24:52,039 are the ones who are based on the piece 742 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,390 100 where 743 00:24:54,620 --> 00:24:56,029 they show you certain animations or 744 00:24:56,030 --> 00:24:58,129 pictures and then 745 00:24:58,130 --> 00:25:01,219 just measure what's going on, um, 746 00:25:01,220 --> 00:25:02,389 how the reactionary looks. 747 00:25:02,390 --> 00:25:04,459 And so then, 748 00:25:04,460 --> 00:25:06,619 OK, the simple method, 749 00:25:06,620 --> 00:25:09,139 I think it's it's quite possible 750 00:25:09,140 --> 00:25:11,209 if you gather some data from 751 00:25:11,210 --> 00:25:13,369 some user and you just look at 752 00:25:13,370 --> 00:25:15,319 some frequency range, for instance, of 753 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,029 course, and resting state, or if it 754 00:25:17,030 --> 00:25:18,859 doesn't do anything or he's doing some 755 00:25:18,860 --> 00:25:20,719 sort of test, that's usually what you do 756 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,849 if you want to do some 757 00:25:22,850 --> 00:25:25,669 the quantified, uh, 758 00:25:25,670 --> 00:25:28,489 um, statistics, for instance, or 759 00:25:28,490 --> 00:25:30,709 um. And then I think there's 760 00:25:30,710 --> 00:25:33,019 a way actually to, uh, 761 00:25:33,020 --> 00:25:36,199 generate this from the sense that you get 762 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,849 the more advanced one is, uh, I guess, 763 00:25:38,850 --> 00:25:40,929 uh, well, yeah, it 764 00:25:40,930 --> 00:25:43,129 was a lot of machine learning and 765 00:25:43,130 --> 00:25:45,109 and you would have, uh, friends and maybe 766 00:25:45,110 --> 00:25:47,169 some inspiration from dynamic 767 00:25:47,170 --> 00:25:49,339 modeling and you try 768 00:25:49,340 --> 00:25:51,409 to actually model some cognitive 769 00:25:51,410 --> 00:25:53,509 processes, for instance, 770 00:25:53,510 --> 00:25:55,129 something with sentences, something you 771 00:25:55,130 --> 00:25:57,829 see on the display, and then you would 772 00:25:57,830 --> 00:26:00,799 simulate actually the P300. 773 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,739 I think it's a lot of work, but 774 00:26:03,740 --> 00:26:05,839 I think it can be done actually to 775 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,219 some extent. Not completely. 776 00:26:07,220 --> 00:26:09,319 Of course, we're not 777 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,809 half the way there with brain 778 00:26:11,810 --> 00:26:13,039 stimulation also. 779 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,859 Um, but OK, so just, uh, 780 00:26:15,860 --> 00:26:17,479 over you again, the three techniques and 781 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,779 of course of we 782 00:26:20,780 --> 00:26:22,309 ought to be there. The New Revolution 783 00:26:22,310 --> 00:26:24,439 Sibusiso to also talk 784 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:25,759 about this in detail. 785 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,399 And uh, so I will skip this part. 786 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,739 Um, this is 787 00:26:30,740 --> 00:26:32,419 just I'm showing you the range of attack 788 00:26:32,420 --> 00:26:35,239 that are possible, at which 789 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,579 point you actually would 790 00:26:37,580 --> 00:26:39,709 put some malware or some bad software. 791 00:26:39,710 --> 00:26:41,599 Um, I think there are different ways 792 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,909 possible. And this is the most 793 00:26:43,910 --> 00:26:46,039 sophisticated audience for think about 794 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:47,659 creative ways to attack here. 795 00:26:47,660 --> 00:26:49,789 Um, so I 796 00:26:49,790 --> 00:26:51,409 think it's OK if I leave you with that. 797 00:26:51,410 --> 00:26:53,479 And, uh, so then I 798 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,339 would just, uh, run through this. 799 00:26:55,340 --> 00:26:57,619 This is the device that came 800 00:26:57,620 --> 00:26:59,769 out and I would just put this 801 00:26:59,770 --> 00:27:00,770 slide online. 802 00:27:01,490 --> 00:27:02,629 Um, OK. 803 00:27:02,630 --> 00:27:04,039 All right. I think it's OK. 804 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,319 I just hope, um. 805 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,449 So and then I would just skip this and 806 00:27:08,450 --> 00:27:09,469 then. 807 00:27:09,470 --> 00:27:12,199 Yeah. So does the coffee presentation. 808 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,479 Uh, part actually were just uh. 809 00:27:15,710 --> 00:27:17,779 Yeah, actually I gather people for 810 00:27:17,780 --> 00:27:20,119 uh think about actually neuro security, 811 00:27:21,380 --> 00:27:22,939 just uh I guess I don't know if it's a 812 00:27:22,940 --> 00:27:25,309 new phrase. I just put it like that 813 00:27:25,310 --> 00:27:27,409 because as I said, I think 814 00:27:27,410 --> 00:27:28,939 maybe it sounds a little bit early, but I 815 00:27:28,940 --> 00:27:31,229 still think it's possible, uh, it 816 00:27:31,230 --> 00:27:32,779 should be considered at this point 817 00:27:32,780 --> 00:27:35,149 already, um, because 818 00:27:35,150 --> 00:27:37,069 a lot of things are working on the cloud 819 00:27:37,070 --> 00:27:39,979 and, uh, with your brainwave data 820 00:27:39,980 --> 00:27:41,119 and, uh, yeah. 821 00:27:42,710 --> 00:27:45,199 Then OK, maybe 822 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,389 I should just go to 823 00:27:47,390 --> 00:27:48,390 I'm sorry. 824 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,409 Things switched to 825 00:27:51,410 --> 00:27:52,410 Namak. 826 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,109 Let's see what Professor Carter says 827 00:27:55,110 --> 00:27:57,359 about this and 828 00:27:57,360 --> 00:27:58,819 switch this machine if it's possible. 829 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,640 That's the American action line. 830 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,399 So thank you for coming. 831 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,569 And I like to 832 00:28:12,570 --> 00:28:13,570 show. 833 00:28:18,020 --> 00:28:19,380 And this involves. 834 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,679 So currently, I'm connecting 835 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,319 our brain interface here, 836 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,389 then shows like 837 00:28:30,390 --> 00:28:31,390 a Gissler. 838 00:28:32,790 --> 00:28:35,459 So this is my rawData 839 00:28:35,460 --> 00:28:37,599 left and right, 840 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,869 Bramblett Central, straight to 841 00:28:39,870 --> 00:28:40,870 the. 842 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,700 Spectrum, this display. 843 00:28:47,060 --> 00:28:49,369 And more directly into the microphone 844 00:28:49,370 --> 00:28:51,949 and then control 845 00:28:51,950 --> 00:28:53,420 the financial currently. 846 00:28:56,380 --> 00:28:57,880 So I like to 847 00:28:59,470 --> 00:29:01,749 do so, I like to show 848 00:29:01,750 --> 00:29:03,309 how I ended up. 849 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,810 Yeah, OK. 850 00:29:13,460 --> 00:29:15,649 So I I'd start 851 00:29:15,650 --> 00:29:17,749 to use a narrow 852 00:29:17,750 --> 00:29:20,419 amplifier before before 853 00:29:20,420 --> 00:29:23,299 you start in nineteen 854 00:29:23,300 --> 00:29:25,639 seventy two and 855 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,829 we're starting microcomputer. 856 00:29:27,830 --> 00:29:29,359 I was so exciting to 857 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,259 do so many things with microprocessing. 858 00:29:34,860 --> 00:29:37,859 So I designed it this way, 859 00:29:37,860 --> 00:29:39,359 that very complicated, 860 00:29:41,310 --> 00:29:43,799 so I ratable assembly programing 861 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,409 the time, and 862 00:29:46,410 --> 00:29:48,839 so I Cappato 863 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,549 is a pretty nice, OK, you 864 00:29:51,550 --> 00:29:53,609 know, whatever, but otherwise 865 00:29:53,610 --> 00:29:55,950 so difficult to programing that time. 866 00:29:58,230 --> 00:30:01,619 Then 1983 867 00:30:01,620 --> 00:30:03,779 84, Lisa 868 00:30:03,780 --> 00:30:05,579 and the Macintosh study. 869 00:30:05,580 --> 00:30:08,079 So using 870 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,369 Pascha and ADA and Sea 871 00:30:11,370 --> 00:30:13,979 using system also. 872 00:30:13,980 --> 00:30:14,980 So I 873 00:30:16,290 --> 00:30:18,479 did a special experience. 874 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:19,589 So to. 875 00:30:21,090 --> 00:30:22,949 To drawings, some image 876 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,459 using Brahmbhatt, so this is a 877 00:30:26,460 --> 00:30:28,679 beginning of the planned 878 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,050 computer interface for my experience. 879 00:30:33,290 --> 00:30:35,389 That this is a 880 00:30:35,390 --> 00:30:37,859 diagram for how control 881 00:30:37,860 --> 00:30:40,849 mouse with the brain, but it's 882 00:30:40,850 --> 00:30:43,489 just that I like to show this idea 883 00:30:43,490 --> 00:30:45,649 that we really cannot see anything. 884 00:30:45,650 --> 00:30:47,929 But it's a pattern 885 00:30:47,930 --> 00:30:49,209 recognition function. 886 00:30:49,210 --> 00:30:52,099 I including for how the 887 00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:54,619 mouse is blended. 888 00:30:54,620 --> 00:30:56,770 So this is a drawing 889 00:30:58,030 --> 00:31:00,069 use the time 890 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:02,479 left. 891 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:03,480 Yeah. 892 00:31:05,330 --> 00:31:07,250 So then. 893 00:31:10,500 --> 00:31:12,599 So I designed 894 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,410 to try to return a 895 00:31:15,710 --> 00:31:16,940 little bit, but 896 00:31:18,290 --> 00:31:20,399 in nineteen eighty 897 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:21,519 five. 898 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:22,520 So, 899 00:31:25,230 --> 00:31:26,710 yeah, thank you. 900 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,809 So the time machine 901 00:31:30,810 --> 00:31:32,910 existing like that to answer only 902 00:31:34,410 --> 00:31:36,719 like Pantanal recording on 903 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,519 the paper. 904 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:39,520 So 905 00:31:41,490 --> 00:31:43,719 maybe five words. 906 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:44,720 OK, yeah. 907 00:31:45,900 --> 00:31:48,359 So the time machine was so big 908 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,969 and so expensive anyway. 909 00:31:52,950 --> 00:31:55,049 So those that I designed for 910 00:31:55,050 --> 00:31:57,119 the benefit of 911 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,120 the time 912 00:31:59,670 --> 00:32:01,889 then I said to 913 00:32:01,890 --> 00:32:04,119 20 years ago for 914 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,480 into this world, uh, Macintosh. 915 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,349 So it is brush all the time, 916 00:32:10,350 --> 00:32:12,659 and this is a device that had 917 00:32:12,660 --> 00:32:14,819 so many experiences when 918 00:32:14,820 --> 00:32:17,559 people, individuals 919 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:18,560 from 920 00:32:19,780 --> 00:32:20,780 left to right. 921 00:32:23,140 --> 00:32:25,209 So, yeah, this 922 00:32:25,210 --> 00:32:28,149 is just 923 00:32:28,150 --> 00:32:30,039 current application, looks like 924 00:32:31,700 --> 00:32:32,700 it's, um, 925 00:32:34,130 --> 00:32:35,130 but 926 00:32:36,970 --> 00:32:38,219 that's about right. 927 00:32:38,220 --> 00:32:39,220 Yeah, 928 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:42,949 and it's. 929 00:32:45,180 --> 00:32:47,579 So it's a little boring here 930 00:32:47,580 --> 00:32:49,230 and right here, 931 00:32:50,730 --> 00:32:53,339 it's OK over time, 932 00:32:53,340 --> 00:32:55,249 then, OK? 933 00:32:59,020 --> 00:33:01,109 Then we can know we 934 00:33:01,110 --> 00:33:03,169 can get richer, 935 00:33:03,170 --> 00:33:05,549 we can see is dominant now how much power 936 00:33:05,550 --> 00:33:07,679 we have from left or 937 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:08,680 right. 938 00:33:09,150 --> 00:33:11,879 And it's just information 939 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,829 that can translate to the 940 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:17,609 numbers. 941 00:33:17,610 --> 00:33:20,019 And they can't just get 942 00:33:20,020 --> 00:33:22,949 transmitted by UDP, 943 00:33:22,950 --> 00:33:26,309 send us an application 944 00:33:26,310 --> 00:33:28,529 or in a sound application, can 945 00:33:28,530 --> 00:33:29,729 get this information. 946 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:32,480 So. 947 00:33:33,510 --> 00:33:35,879 So this is a clear time 948 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:36,960 currently. No. 949 00:33:38,090 --> 00:33:39,979 To control decided mission after. 950 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,749 You know, OK, 951 00:33:44,750 --> 00:33:46,819 so we can we can we 952 00:33:46,820 --> 00:33:49,009 can do some interesting stuff like this 953 00:33:49,010 --> 00:33:50,010 where. 954 00:33:52,570 --> 00:33:54,489 So basically, the ideas you have left and 955 00:33:54,490 --> 00:33:56,589 right brain and you analyze the different 956 00:33:56,590 --> 00:33:57,999 patterns and you analyze the frequencies, 957 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,099 and from then you generate various 958 00:34:00,100 --> 00:34:02,049 animations and ideas, you have the 959 00:34:02,050 --> 00:34:04,149 conscious display, you can see 960 00:34:04,150 --> 00:34:05,799 certain frequencies fully transforms that 961 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,479 for your conscious part of your brain 962 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,009 says, OK, this frequency is active. 963 00:34:09,010 --> 00:34:10,689 But if you want to do a neurofeedback 964 00:34:10,690 --> 00:34:12,069 things, it also makes sense to have 965 00:34:12,070 --> 00:34:14,169 subconscious displays where you're not 966 00:34:14,170 --> 00:34:15,819 really knowing what's going on, but your 967 00:34:15,820 --> 00:34:17,799 brain in your subconscious will notice. 968 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,289 OK, maybe just reflecting object changes 969 00:34:20,290 --> 00:34:21,939 diameter. Whenever I'm thinking of 970 00:34:21,940 --> 00:34:23,649 somebody as someone I like or whenever 971 00:34:23,650 --> 00:34:25,749 I'm thinking of my internal state, it's 972 00:34:25,750 --> 00:34:27,908 rotating. So that's why, you know, first 973 00:34:27,909 --> 00:34:28,899 you don't really know what's going on. 974 00:34:28,900 --> 00:34:30,879 But it's very important to have a clear 975 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,738 scientific thing for your consciousness. 976 00:34:32,739 --> 00:34:33,968 Some people like to see the clear 977 00:34:33,969 --> 00:34:36,189 frequencies, but some people react more 978 00:34:36,190 --> 00:34:38,259 to this. In fact, eventually after five 979 00:34:38,260 --> 00:34:40,329 minutes, they realize, oh, that's me. 980 00:34:40,330 --> 00:34:42,819 It's just after a few days they realize 981 00:34:42,820 --> 00:34:44,198 seeing yourself. That's what's important 982 00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:45,729 for neurofeedback in art. 983 00:34:45,730 --> 00:34:47,738 That's basically why he has those 984 00:34:47,739 --> 00:34:48,939 interesting animations. 985 00:34:48,940 --> 00:34:50,199 Now we can take some questions. 986 00:35:02,410 --> 00:35:05,529 OK, thank you, Megamind evolution, for 987 00:35:05,530 --> 00:35:07,000 your very interesting talk. 988 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,499 So for questions, I would like 989 00:35:11,500 --> 00:35:14,139 to call the 990 00:35:14,140 --> 00:35:15,679 Internet questions first, please. 991 00:35:17,050 --> 00:35:19,119 Yeah, we have three questions, actually. 992 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:20,500 One from White Rabbit. 993 00:35:21,860 --> 00:35:23,109 Quiet, please. 994 00:35:23,110 --> 00:35:24,819 If you're leaving, please be quiet when 995 00:35:24,820 --> 00:35:25,820 you're leaving. 996 00:35:26,950 --> 00:35:29,139 White Rabbit is asking how long 997 00:35:29,140 --> 00:35:31,689 in terms of battery life can a wireless 998 00:35:31,690 --> 00:35:33,759 Do-It-Yourself set up last 999 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,859 Tarsa set up with one or 1000 00:35:35,860 --> 00:35:37,539 ten electrodes. 1001 00:35:37,540 --> 00:35:39,989 Electrodes consume much more power 1002 00:35:39,990 --> 00:35:40,649 at. 1003 00:35:40,650 --> 00:35:43,269 It's a zero point to ampere 1004 00:35:43,270 --> 00:35:45,969 per channel and basically a standard 1005 00:35:45,970 --> 00:35:48,129 lithium ion smartphone battery will last 1006 00:35:48,130 --> 00:35:49,419 for five to eight hours. 1007 00:35:49,420 --> 00:35:50,379 But it depends. 1008 00:35:50,380 --> 00:35:52,569 Also zero point zero 1009 00:35:52,570 --> 00:35:55,119 point zero two and 1010 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:56,079 current per channel. 1011 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:57,399 So the more chance you have indeed to 1012 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:58,929 amplify needs more power. 1013 00:35:58,930 --> 00:36:00,999 But you can with two channels, you can do 1014 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,829 eight hours and do it yourself means you 1015 00:36:02,830 --> 00:36:04,699 can stick as many batteries to the 1016 00:36:04,700 --> 00:36:05,769 headset as you want. You know, for 1017 00:36:05,770 --> 00:36:07,839 example, this headset is 1018 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,429 the latest three prototype. 1019 00:36:09,430 --> 00:36:10,989 You put small lithium batteries all 1020 00:36:10,990 --> 00:36:12,969 around the thing and I can get to to 1021 00:36:12,970 --> 00:36:14,859 multiple days with two channels. 1022 00:36:14,860 --> 00:36:17,619 So do it yourself, whatever you like. 1023 00:36:17,620 --> 00:36:18,879 If you like more channels, put more 1024 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,009 batteries on it, but it's quite 1025 00:36:21,010 --> 00:36:22,010 efficient. 1026 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,379 OK, we have enough time for one 1027 00:36:26,380 --> 00:36:28,119 more question. 1028 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,889 I will take a question from the Internet. 1029 00:36:29,890 --> 00:36:31,689 Again, everybody who's in the house and 1030 00:36:31,690 --> 00:36:33,849 has questions, feel free to 1031 00:36:33,850 --> 00:36:35,649 contact the speakers afterwards. 1032 00:36:36,850 --> 00:36:38,979 Thank you. FPGA Light 1033 00:36:38,980 --> 00:36:42,189 asks, what is the bandwidth 1034 00:36:42,190 --> 00:36:44,499 within the brain in comparison to 1035 00:36:44,500 --> 00:36:46,689 the bandwidth that 1036 00:36:46,690 --> 00:36:48,020 you get out of your signal? 1037 00:36:49,420 --> 00:36:51,339 Well, I mean, the electrons pick up, you 1038 00:36:51,340 --> 00:36:52,829 know, zoom out. 1039 00:36:52,830 --> 00:36:54,159 It depends on the number of electrodes, 1040 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:55,180 but we can do twenty four 1041 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:57,309 thousand K sample rate. 1042 00:36:57,310 --> 00:36:59,439 But, uh, then with bandwidth 1043 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,029 depends on the amounts of electrodes you 1044 00:37:01,030 --> 00:37:03,089 have. And, you know, just 1045 00:37:03,090 --> 00:37:05,169 basically, uh, we have 1046 00:37:05,170 --> 00:37:07,479 the more bandwidth and sample 1047 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,129 rate is usually enough to have to doubled 1048 00:37:09,130 --> 00:37:11,349 and increase frequency of your 1049 00:37:11,350 --> 00:37:12,529 highest frequency. You want to measure 1050 00:37:12,530 --> 00:37:14,589 also and with Bluetooth you get 1051 00:37:14,590 --> 00:37:16,149 to some limitations. But with wi fi and a 1052 00:37:16,150 --> 00:37:17,829 new sparkle, for example, a new low 1053 00:37:17,830 --> 00:37:20,049 power, long range wi fi things you 1054 00:37:20,050 --> 00:37:22,480 can have eventually hundreds of channels. 1055 00:37:25,330 --> 00:37:26,679 There's no limitation, it's only what 1056 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,419 technol technology transmission of 1057 00:37:28,420 --> 00:37:30,249 wireless transmission is possible with 1058 00:37:30,250 --> 00:37:31,269 the vortex encoding. 1059 00:37:33,250 --> 00:37:35,589 I think once 1060 00:37:35,590 --> 00:37:37,629 your head is full with electrodes, it's 1061 00:37:37,630 --> 00:37:38,630 still going to work. 1062 00:37:41,260 --> 00:37:43,569 OK, one more question maybe or 1063 00:37:43,570 --> 00:37:44,570 maybe not. 1064 00:37:45,370 --> 00:37:46,989 Thank you. Thank you for coming down to 1065 00:37:46,990 --> 00:37:48,999 join us and give another round of 1066 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,410 applause to our speakers.